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    I took the metal pieces to the welder and he welded it all up as I waited. The light was failing, but I tried the grate “stand” in the fire box and then added the new grate. I was very pleased.

    In the first picture, it is an overhead look at the firebox, showing the stand and the concrete shelf at the back of the firebox.

    The second picture shows the grate in place, fitting perfectly how I wanted.

    The third picture shows the 4” opening below the grate. The width of the opening is not what it will be when it is operating, it is narrow for winter storage mode.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a5p...46iTxfxLGDnIFw

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0969...L9HiGgGKdjUmvQ

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a6t...7PgkgNSmhUJpWQ

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    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    One thing you might be able to do with the roof jack and pipe is get it started, make sure it is in the right direction, in the house where it is warm and pliable. Get it close to where it needs to go on the pipe that way you won't have to fight with it outside. As for as the base portion that should bend into place and screw down pretty well. Come summer you can always caulk around it.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal. syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start
    2025 - No tapping for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiamond View Post
    One thing you might be able to do with the roof jack and pipe is get it started, make sure it is in the right direction, in the house where it is warm and pliable. Get it close to where it needs to go on the pipe that way you won't have to fight with it outside. As for as the base portion that should bend into place and screw down pretty well. Come summer you can always caulk around it.
    What I thought I would do is to put the double wall pipe on the single wall pipe, then climb up on the roof and mark the roof line and slope with a felt pen on the double wall pipe.

    I then would go into the house or heated garage and slide the boot Jack just above the line that I drew. I would then climb back on the roof, add butyl tape to the edges of the boot, lower the double wall pipe with the roof Jack on it, down onto the single wall pipe, then screw the boot jack to the metal roof and add caulking to the outer edges of the boot jack.
    Last edited by Swingpure; 01-31-2023 at 07:59 PM.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    I took the metal pieces to the welder and he welded it all up as I waited. The light was failing, but I tried the grate “stand” in the fire box and then added the new grate. I was very pleased.

    In the first picture, it is an overhead look at the firebox, showing the stand and the concrete shelf at the back of the firebox.

    The second picture shows the grate in place, fitting perfectly how I wanted.

    The third picture shows the 4” opening below the grate. The width of the opening is not what it will be when it is operating, it is narrow for winter storage mode.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a5p...46iTxfxLGDnIFw

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0969...L9HiGgGKdjUmvQ

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a6t...7PgkgNSmhUJpWQ

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    This looks great! Or should I say grate?

    GO
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL evaporator halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same Mason 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals (too much sap!)
    2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gall
    2025: 17 taps, 4-5 gall
    All on buckets

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    I have had some taps in since Christmas and made some syrup at that time. Since then there was one day where some sap unexpectedly ran. In the 5 gallon pails barely a bottom full, but in the collection barrel perhaps a gallon. It immediately froze and has remained that way. This coming week, there looks to be a flow day and maybe a couple other slight flow days.

    My guess is that the frozen sap at the bottom of the pails and barrel would still be good having been frozen. Is that a good assumption?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    I have had some taps in since Christmas and made some syrup at that time. Since then there was one day where some sap unexpectedly ran. In the 5 gallon pails barely a bottom full, but in the collection barrel perhaps a gallon. It immediately froze and has remained that way. This coming week, there looks to be a flow day and maybe a couple other slight flow days.

    My guess is that the frozen sap at the bottom of the pails and barrel would still be good having been frozen. Is that a good assumption?
    That frozen sap should be good. I've seen on this forum where some producers freeze excess sap and boil it later on.
    2021 - Year one. 15 taps using 5/16" and drop tube into buckets. Homemade barrel evaporator with 2 steam trays.
    2022. 32 taps. Added AUF.
    2023. 51 taps. Ditched the steam pans for an 18x22 flat pan.
    2024. 56 taps. Built a proper evaporator to fit the 18x22 flat pan and 1 steam pan.
    2025. 62 taps.

  7. #397
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    Well today my silicone roof jack was delivered from Amazon. I also shoveled off almost 2 feet of snow off of the sugar shelter in preparation for when I install the basestack and stove pipe through the roof.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0a9k..._4CUtyqd669U8w

    My pan may have been welded this afternoon, it was supposed to be done if all went well, but I have not heard either way. I really hope that sometime next week I get the pan, float box and basestack and basestack base. Time is getting closer.

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    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Thats taking a while for that pan to be fabricated. I remember when you ordered it a long time ago. Is it because you were just so low on the list, that he is getting to it now. Or he was waiting for material to build it?
    Sounds like you will get it just in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brien View Post
    Thats taking a while for that pan to be fabricated. I remember when you ordered it a long time ago. Is it because you were just so low on the list, that he is getting to it now. Or he was waiting for material to build it?
    Sounds like you will get it just in time.
    I heard from the pan maker this afternoon and the pan was finished yesterday and the base stack, base stack base, float box and pan cover will all be finished tomorrow and I will pick them up at 4 pm on Monday. Colour me happy! I will have a few weeks to get it all rigged up before I go all in on tapping.

    I am not great on roofs, but I will find a way to do it, I just need a day when it is not snowing to get up there, metal roofs are very slippery when they are wet.

    My butyl tape to go around the edges of the roof Jack should arrive tomorrow and I will pick up some clear roofing sealant that is good to be applied down to -15° C, so I should get a good seal on the flashing.

    There actually may be some minimal sap flow this coming week on the my early taps. I will be interested, particularly on Tuesday to see how they are all flowing.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Feeling good about getting my pan and stuff on Monday, I went out in a snowstorm and walked the lines by my house and my immediate neighbour’s. I wore snowshoes and the snow was deep. I was debating walking the lines twice, but there is 50 cms (20”’) of snow in the forecast for the next two weeks, so I will do it again closer to tapping time.

    I have to admit now knowing when I am going to get the pan, float box, basestack, basestack base and pan cover, has changed my mindset. The uncertainty of not knowing was starting to weigh on me.

    We are a few weeks away from tapping here yet, but I will be ready when the time comes.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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