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    Gary. we've got about 2 inches so far. The weather report says we are supposed to have snow all week long and into the weekend.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal. syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start
    2025 - No tapping for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Thanks

    Do you check the ph with ph paper?

    Do you neutralize it with water or some other solution?

    Thanks

    Gary
    Yep. Citric acid works to nuetralize it and can also be used for acid wash of RO. Granular citric acid is readily available amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRoseum View Post
    Yep. Citric acid works to nuetralize it and can also be used for acid wash of RO. Granular citric acid is readily available amazon.
    Thanks, I just ordered both on Amazon.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    I've neutralized with vinegar. Don't run that thru the RO tho. I do washes at home in my garage. I use a 10 gallon stainless pot and I put it on a burner to help warm it up. My soap is chemically set to stop where I need it at 11 mph (I think) circulate that til it hits 113F and I leave it soak for as long as I can. Push water into the Ro til my tank is full, neutralize and dispose of the soap water. Then flush the rest in the same manner for 20 min. I've never used citric to neutralize but do have some now as I did my first soap\acid\soap wash. I like the dowel idea on the drill bit. Tubing on the drill bit gets all mashed up and goes deeper than you want it to. Haven't tried a drill stop.
    2016 7 taps= 1-2 gallons of syrup
    2017 135 taps making 17 gallons syrup
    2018 75 taps =50 gallons syrup
    2019 70 taps making 20 gallons. Single 4x40 RO
    2020 bought 40 acres installed 250 tubing taps, 100 bags. 70 gal
    2021 500 taps with guzzler. 80 gal syrup + sold sap
    2022 600 taps 27 gal sap per tap on guzzler!!! 110 gal + sold sap

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    Quote Originally Posted by needmoremaples View Post
    I like the dowel idea on the drill bit. Tubing on the drill bit gets all mashed up and goes deeper than you want it to. Haven't tried a drill stop.
    Thanks. I am hoping the dowel works, but I did buy an inexpensive drill stop set on Amazon as back up. I might try both with a regular drill bit on a piece of wood, prior to tapping.

    Last year was my first year tapping. Although it went well, the tapping auger was so aggressive, it was hard to stop at the right depth. My hope is the dowel or stopper will allow me to go quickly in and out, a nice smooth round hole.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Tapping bits are effortless and drive themselves in. Highly recommended over any other bit. Last for 1000's of tap holes.
    2016 7 taps= 1-2 gallons of syrup
    2017 135 taps making 17 gallons syrup
    2018 75 taps =50 gallons syrup
    2019 70 taps making 20 gallons. Single 4x40 RO
    2020 bought 40 acres installed 250 tubing taps, 100 bags. 70 gal
    2021 500 taps with guzzler. 80 gal syrup + sold sap
    2022 600 taps 27 gal sap per tap on guzzler!!! 110 gal + sold sap

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    Quote Originally Posted by needmoremaples View Post
    Tapping bits are effortless and drive themselves in. Highly recommended over any other bit. Last for 1000's of tap holes.
    Thanks

    I do have tapping bits, they did cut effortlessly, sometimes they felt that they kept wanting to pull you deeper. As I got more experienced, I would brace myself a little better to stop that.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Thanks

    I do have tapping bits, they did cut effortlessly, sometimes they felt that they kept wanting to pull you deeper. As I got more experienced, I would brace myself a little better to stop that.
    Not sure what tapping bits you bought, but you should not have to brace yourself? My 8 year little girl can easily tap our trees by herself. No dowel. No stop...roughly 2" deep. The fact that your bit is pulling itself in to the point that you need to brace yourself and make a stop for the bit to prevent this...??? Something doesn't sound right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    ,, but I did buy an inexpensive drill stop set on Amazon as back up.
    A very cheap and effective bit stop is a piece of 5/16" tubing cut to the proper length and slipped over the drill bit, leaving 2" of bit exposed for tapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigschuss View Post
    Not sure what tapping bits you bought, but you should not have to brace yourself? My 8 year little girl can easily tap our trees by herself. No dowel. No stop...roughly 2" deep. The fact that your bit is pulling itself in to the point that you need to brace yourself and make a stop for the bit to prevent this...??? Something doesn't sound right.
    The bits were purchased from CDL. Sometimes they did want to “pull” themselves in. That was my experience on some of the trees. There is no issue going into the tree, just stopping it at the right spot on occasion was an issue.

    With my stops, whether it be the dowel, or a drill stop, or 5/16 tubing, it will not be an issue this upcoming season. 111 days to go.

    I envy you that you started maple syruping while your kids are still young and can participate.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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