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    I have a 2x6 inferno with a 30 ft stack. its airtight with a fan and am getting way too much draft. any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Lander Sugaring View Post
    he is alive, he is finally getting around to the HE injection.
    talked to him yesterday, he sold 10 more gallons at 30 each. 7 dollars more a gallon than bulk price GO THAD GO! He said he doesn't care whose customers he steals as long as the money ends up in his pocket!
    And that is exactly why it is “The Great Race to The Bottom.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by earl dakers View Post
    I have a 2x6 inferno with a 30 ft stack. its airtight with a fan and am getting way too much draft. any suggestions?
    You should post this in the evaporator forum and make your on post with your question and not steal a thread.
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    Yesterday I took a ride to a local dealer to pick up a few supplies. They have a store selling maple syrup and bakery items as part of their maple supply business. Amongst all the syrup was your typical array of maple whoopee pies, maple candies, maple confections etc..... Almost all the confections and home baked items contained artificial maple flavoring. How in heck are we supposed to expand our industry, promote an all natural product and promote real maple syrup if we don't use it in our own products?! It's hypocritical at best, deceitful at the least.

    We run a small farm store selling beef, pork, eggs and homemade items. We refuse to sell anything that isn't "real" anything. My wife makes and sells maple salsa, whoopee pies, candy, cream, cookies etc...etc.... All of which is made with real syrup, no artificial.

    The buying public isn't going to trust nor believe us that real maple syrup is best if we're selling products made with fake syrup. We cut our own throats by not walking the walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Lander Sugaring View Post
    he is alive, he is finally getting around to the HE injection.
    talked to him yesterday, he sold 10 more gallons at 30 each. 7 dollars more a gallon than bulk price GO THAD GO! He said he doesn't care whose customers he steals as long as the money ends up in his pocket!
    I talked to him the other day. He told me about the helium injection. I think hes on to something. Or maybe he's on something?! Haha.
    Stop trying to get everyone riled up with the $30/ gallon thing. You like to start trouble. It's in your nature

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    It wasn't that many years ago that bulk syrup was selling for far less money than it is today. We sure liked seeing it in the upper $2 a pound range but i can remember when it was in the low $1 to under that. I remember when I got $1.30 a pound and was happy and now $2 - $2.10 a pound and people are complaining.
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    Part of the problem there is that the cost of making syrup has climbed so much faster than the price. Likely when you got $1.30 a pound the cost to make it was less than half what it is today. To be relatively equal we'd need to get $2.60 today.
    I still believe retailing far more of your own syrup is the answer, and don't do that by cutting the price you sell it for to be below everyone else, that will not help anyone except the consumer who pays less than the cost to make the syrup. That's a recipe for bankruptcy.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottP View Post
    It wasn't that many years ago that bulk syrup was selling for far less money than it is today. We sure liked seeing it in the upper $2 a pound range but i can remember when it was in the low $1 to under that. I remember when I got $1.30 a pound and was happy and now $2 - $2.10 a pound and people are complaining.
    $1.35 / lb. for light amber in 1990, unfiltered. I recall 1991 (below dark amber, good or bad taste was .50 / lb., unfiltered, the following year that grade was .60 / lb. Nothing was ever filtered, they scraped the sediment out of the milkcans, wanted it all! Now its a .30/lb dockage. Figuring this in, the price we are getting is way worse now when taking inflation into account. Year 1996 had LA-$1.50, MA-$1.40, DA-1.30, below DA-$1.10 all per lb, all unfiltered prices. I have the slips to prove.

    Figuring amber rich, MA current price at $1.70 / lb. unfiltered, that has only been an anemic .30/lb increase in 22 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    Part of the problem there is that the cost of making syrup has climbed so much faster than the price. Likely when you got $1.30 a pound the cost to make it was less than half what it is today. To be relatively equal we'd need to get $2.60 today.
    I still believe retailing far more of your own syrup is the answer, and don't do that by cutting the price you sell it for to be below everyone else, that will not help anyone except the consumer who pays less than the cost to make the syrup. That's a recipe for bankruptcy.
    you make syrup for the bulk price weather you like it or not. selling syrup is something else, you do not need to make syrup to retail it in jugs.

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