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  1. 08-11-2022, 06:00 PM #61
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    I did not get everything done I had hoped to, but I did get a lot done. I cut the metal to fit for the floor plate, and cut concrete blocks and panels to fit certain locations. I also took the concrete I poured for other locations and they all fit perfectly. I then started to place the firebrick. The angle iron holds the top of the firebrick really well.

    Tomorrow I will cut the firebrick to fit the special places.

    The only thing I do not have set in my head yet is the door, I keep changing my mind. Last year I had a large concrete door with handles that I simply slid off to the side, when I wanted to load wood. It was a pretty good fit and seal, but was not perfect.

    I will come up with something.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/01c5...N3Z8C9G9ct4gOw

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/071k...CtIT2a-dSGO14Q
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    I have the fire brick basically completed. Some sand yet to fill in some spaces on the floor, the sides are tight.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/096E...rQA0jAg92OhagA

    Now to figure out the door.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    That looks amazing. I want to build that. After you figure out the door and show us those pictures! And your AUF/AOF setup. :-)
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    I can't access your pictures, I have an Android phone not an Apple.
    Last edited by maple flats; 08-13-2022 at 06:49 AM.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
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    It should still open on an Android phone, I just tested sending the same link to my buddies android phone and it worked and you are the first person that has ever said you could not open one of my iCloud links. I am not sure what to do to help. Sorry you cannot see the picture.

    Gary
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    So I had considered getting a metal 12x12 door and attaching it to metal plates, getting things welded and making it all fit, but that would have been $400 or more by the time I was done. With all of the other expenditures with the divided pan, float box, stainless steel lid and the base stack, two new 500’ lines each, I thought that project could wait a year.

    Instead I reused left over material from last year’s evaporator, and I am using last year’s door (although I will renew it), and it will work just fine.
    The handles on the door were simply wood from my wood pile, that is cut to size and drilled. I will renew the handles as well. So other than buying a concrete patio stone to replace the door panel, it cost me nothing.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0e0u...hl9AXQS2utv4Vg

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/094I...F-txI-0ZAMKohQ

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/092N...0QL-WUK_NVy5yA

    After reading some posts about DYI AUF, I know what I want to do. It definitely will be variable speed and will likely be on a low setting. I know last year, my leaf blower, even from a distance was way too much. I am not sure I need it, but maybe a little additional air will help, without damaging the cinder blocks.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    I purchased this fan for my AUF. I will rig up something to vary the speed, unless the airflow is not overly powerful.

    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00CQBFOTS?...p_imgToDp&th=1

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/041b...NvMsGqlSw8s6rw

    Once I see how much flow comes out it, I may find a way to pipe it to come out in two different locations.


    Edit: Well that was easy, I now have ordered my fan speed controller. https://www.amazon.ca/iPower-Exhaust...714FFG4F&psc=1

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/08aX...qvfLxe1_sOeJRg

    I was thinking piping the flow to have AUF and AOF, but I doubt this fan has the pressure for that and will be happy with air coming from under the grate. I might yet split the flow to come out each side of the draft opening.
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    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    The fan arrived today from Amazon, I think less than 24 hours after I ordered it. I think it will produce the right amount of air for my cinder block arch. I will have the speed control to dial back if need be, but may not need it. I was thinking of splitting the flow, but seeing it, I just will funnel it towards the opening below the grate. I will just use some 4” metal ducting either side of it.

    It should increase the heat in the firebox, but I don’t want to get overly hot and overly damage the cinder blocks.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/043K...xwB_j8fepMJyQg

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/065i...S5nj2M9leZMXGg
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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    Gary, you won't damage the cinder blocks, you have them protected with fire brick. I don't think that fan will get your firebricks that hot. my squirrel cage blower on my sealed arch can make mine glow.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal. syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start
    2025 - No tapping for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiamond View Post
    Gary, you won't damage the cinder blocks, you have them protected with fire brick. I don't think that fan will get your firebricks that hot. my squirrel cage blower on my sealed arch can make mine glow.
    Thanks.

    Last season with my leaf blower just idling, and held at a distance, it caused the flames to come out from under the door and fire was going crazy.

    I will give this one a try. It will be better than nothing and I can always quickly get something like a squirrel cage blower, if I need something more powerful.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.
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