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  1. #11
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    Default My Buckets...a little unique

    I need to hang most of my buckets since my sugar maples are on a slope and don't want to deal with keeping them level on the ground.

    I originally collected alot of buckets we use in our restaurant that came with peeled potatoes in water. Pickle buckets are not good...always smell of vinegar/spices and I am sure that gets into the syrup when concentrated. They are heavy duty square, white, 4 gal. buckets with very tight fitting lids. I eventually got frustrated with them....they have ridges on their upper section that protrude out from the main bucket so it was very tricky to hang them on the spout, sometimes did not allow enough clearance. And, even with modifications, the lids were way too difficult to remove.

    My solution is a little costly, but best for me since I plan on doing this a long time. I have 12 qt (3 gal) clear square lexan foodservice containers with high quality lids. I used a 1 1/4" hole saw to make a hole big enough to fit over my leader aluminum hookless 5/16" treesaver spouts. It hangs perfectly and the lids snap on tightly, but are easy to remove and replace even if very cold.

    One of the best things is that since they are clear, I can see from the house or driving up the driveway if they are in need of dumping/storing. These buckets are sanitary, clean easily and stack compactly for storage.

    I still use the square potato buckets for sap storage. this year we are blessed in that I can bury them in the huge snow banks left after digging out my boiling fireplace. Attached are a few photos from last years fun....my first year....although everybody said it was a bad year, I was still very happy with 3 gallons of finished syrup. This year will be better. I definitely don't mind all the leaf raking/mulching of the maple leaves since they give us so much pleasure with the syrup!
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  2. #12
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    Default Why use the tubing at all?

    I'm not saying not to. There's probably some good reason. But I just hang the 5 gallon bucket directly on the spout.

    Here's some advantages to hanging on the spout from my current perspective:
    Simpler: no extra tubing
    Better on balance: no need to worry about setting the bucket on flat ground
    Cheaper: No tubing to deal with
    Faster: Seems like it, anyway, both in set-up and dumping sap.

    I drill a 1 1/2"? hole near the top of the bucket and don't snap the tree side of the lid down. I leave the lid right on when pouring the sap out, and since it's only snapped on one side I can get at any ice in the bucket.

    If there's a disadvantage compared to using the tubing to run to a single bucket, I've yet to see it. Weight of a full bucket hasn't been a problem. What am I missing?

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    in my mind..with the drops you can run several taps into one bucket and just swap them out with an empty one..I have about 100 old style buckets and they take me almost twice the time to do than my 5 gals with tubing. just my .02
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    That's my strategy. smaller trees get the old buckets the bigger ones get the 5 gallon buckets with a y drop, 2 or 3 in one bucket. yes some are a pain to balance next to the tree but the hole in the lid ussually holds them, just leave the side with the hole up and no rain in your bucket or very minimal. Done this the last couple years with dump stations up in the bush and sha zam, we're off. Good luck, Brian

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    [B]NOOOOOO [B] please don't pre drill holes. The buckets, the best thing I do is drill the hole in the cover so when you go to collect you bring a empty bucket with a cover with no hole then swap buckets (on spilling). Go to you local Walmart and get empty buckets from the bakery. Good luck and HAVE FUN !!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by morningstarfarm View Post
    in my mind..with the drops you can run several taps into one bucket and just swap them out with an empty one..I have about 100 old style buckets and they take me almost twice the time to do than my 5 gals with tubing. just my .02
    I agree 100% with you!
    27 x 66 homemade arch
    10 taps 2008
    200+taps 2012 (180 will be SS)
    5 years and going strong and looking to get bigger

    2005 John Deer Gator w/a trailor and 130 tank


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    Thanks for all the replies.
    Yes on the buckets. I get them from the local bakery for a buck a piece.

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    I also use 5gallon buckets and I take out the rubber seal ring in the lid , this makes it much easier to get lid on and off no matter how many tabs are on it. I also drill hole in lid for tube a bit small to give a good seal on tube . Have fun and happy sappin!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by morningstarfarm View Post
    in my mind..with the drops you can run several taps into one bucket and just swap them out with an empty one..I have about 100 old style buckets and they take me almost twice the time to do than my 5 gals with tubing. just my .02
    I can see that, if you consolidate several into one bucket. As they say, you can't argue with success!

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    One thing I have learned--and am still learning about life--is that everyone must find a system that works for them. It's different for everyone. It's a function of our skills and beliefs (and the supplies and tools on hand). It's true for everything from relationships to sap buckets. The key is to experiment. My uncle, who is a scientist, taught me that an experiment never fails, because you always learn something.

    So back to buckets.....the drop line system didn't work for me. With two buckets on a tree (the maximum recommended), two drops into one bucket often overfilled the bucket. And then you are left with cleaning the lines, and what about next year when you place the buckets at different heights?

    What works for me is a simple 1" hole drilled into the side of the bucket near the top. Hangs on a 5/16" tap beautifully. Trim the rings off the bucket with a sawzall. Snap the lid down on the far side from the tap. In windy areas I make a tree belt from a section of innertube and baling twine. Goes around the tree and bucket.

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    2023: 140 taps, buckets, 32 gallons
    2019: 100 taps, buckets, 45 gallons
    2018: 100 taps, buckets, 31 gallons
    2017: 100 taps, buckets, 15 gallons
    2015: 100 taps, buckets, 34 gallons
    2014: 100 taps, buckets, 30 gallons
    2013: 100 taps, buckets, 52 gallons

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