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    Default Lapierre Vertical Electric Releaser Float String

    I have a 3' tall Lapierre electric releaser with the float switch and floats setup. Twice now, the float string has broken on me where it wraps around the float switch. Fortunately I had a spare line, so I'm all set for now. Is there an alternative to the line that Lapierre uses that's more durable? It reminds me of fishing line.

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    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
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    how old is this unit?

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    I agree that it is a poor design. I have burned the seals up on two goulds pumps because a chipmunk has gotten into my pump house and chewed the line in half, tripping the pump switch. It was also my fault for not turning off the breaker. Both times were at the end of the season before cleanup.The Bernard electric releaser, that is almost identical, uses a rod with its float system.
    1000 taps on vac down to 3 buckets, 140 taps on gravity tubing, 75 on 4008 Shurflo
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    I had same problem, and replaced it several time. Finally went with a high/low switch for a sump pump. It's been working flawlessly ever sence. One prob on the bottom to shut pump off and one on top turns it on.
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    The unit is maybe four years old.

    Parker, do you have more info on what you used to wire it? Maybe I'll do the same.

    Thanks guys.
    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
    2010 - 377 on vac.
    2011 - 590 on vac.
    2012 - 620 on high vac., 170 buckets, 110 on gravity tubing
    2013 - 830 mine + 800-1000 others
    2014 - 870 mine + 800-1000 others
    2017 - 920 mine + 500-700 others
    2018 - 902 mine + 500-700 others
    2019 - 902 mine + 700 others
    2020 - 902 mine + ???? others
    Atlas Copco Pump
    2.5'x8' 802maple Special with Dallaire pans
    H2O Innovation 600gph RO
    Spring Harvest Website

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    Josh, a couple of seasons back my releaser string failed like yours and I replaced it with a good quality fly fishing line and it has been fine ever since !
    3x10 Dallalre, oil fired, Stainless steel.
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    1500 taps on vac, right to sugar house.
    900 on Gravity
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    The new releasers use a rod that goes through cover then string is attached to rod. They where having issues with ice forming around hole in cover where line went through. This new design is suppose to fix that issue. We just sold our releaser but never had issue with string breaking, only freezing around hole and float not working right cause string was froze.

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    Go to Amazon and search for hc6100 hi-lo pump switch. What it is, is a dual prob. You drill a hole and cement the lower prob in bottom where the switch senses the sap, then you drill a hole and cement the upper prob where you want the pump to start and pump out the releaser. So the sap hits the bottom prob, rises until it hit top prob turns pump on, pump runs until sap goes down to bottom prob then pump shuts off. I have had this for 5-6yrs and has never failed me.
    vacuum
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    filter press
    auto draw
    New leader oil fired


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    I thought about something like this before, but wasn't sure where to find it. Thanks Parker.

    Will it operate a 220V pump? If it can handle it, I can wire the plug for 220V, and plug this into it, and the plug the pump into the controller.
    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
    2010 - 377 on vac.
    2011 - 590 on vac.
    2012 - 620 on high vac., 170 buckets, 110 on gravity tubing
    2013 - 830 mine + 800-1000 others
    2014 - 870 mine + 800-1000 others
    2017 - 920 mine + 500-700 others
    2018 - 902 mine + 500-700 others
    2019 - 902 mine + 700 others
    2020 - 902 mine + ???? others
    Atlas Copco Pump
    2.5'x8' 802maple Special with Dallaire pans
    H2O Innovation 600gph RO
    Spring Harvest Website

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    I ordered the HC 6100 and came yesterday. last night I just had play with it in a cup of water using a lamp as the pump! When the water hit both probes light came on green and my test light came on, but when I slowly removed one of the probes from the water the test light would go out instantly (not enough time for tank to empty ) My under standing is that the light should stay on until the other ( bottom ) probe no longer senses water! Why is mine shutting off as soon as it is removed from water? Any ideas ?
    Another question, probe wire are going to be to long ! Should there be a problem with shortening these wires ? Thank you for any help with these Questions .
    3x10 Dallalre, oil fired, Stainless steel.
    Steam hoods front and rear with preheater.
    1500 taps on vac, right to sugar house.
    900 on Gravity
    New Busch 3 Phase Vacuum. (2010)
    Lapierre 600 Turbo with 2 - 8" posts
    36 years of MAPLE ENJOYMENT!!
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hills...93710737313171

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