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    Default Tubing Tool Controversy

    Hello All,
    I am posing the question because there is some controversy in my sugaring operation over where we should be devoting our resources over the coming weeks.

    -We have around 225 trees right now
    - these trees 5/16th lines were all put together without using a tubing tool, so they were chewed to put fittings together.

    We have been told that chewing lines will hurt your natural vacuum and the controversy is if we should spend the 300 bucks (which would be a real squeeze for us) to fix the existing trees, or if we would be better off to run line we already own to get around 50 more trees taped without using the tool, bringing our tree count up to around 275(but all chewed).

    Basicly is it the investment in the tool worth it for the sap yield increase it might provided? I understand it is a big time saver, but that isn't a real issue for us.

    Just curious to hear what people think and to hear peoples personal experience. Has anyone made this switch and noticed a difference?

    Thanks!

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    Chewing? What do u mean exactly
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    Would you guys put some pictures up of the tools you made? I just received my new Mig welder and this will be a great first project.
    2010 - barrel stove & a steam table pan. 10 - 12 trees
    2011 - same deal as the year before. My son is now hooked along with me.
    2012 - Took over the garden shed and set up a Mason 2x3. Hoping to tap 30 - 50 trees. Ended up with 100 taps out.
    Finished the season with 16 gallons made
    2013- - Purchased a Smokey Lake 2 x 3 Hybrid pan. WOW, what a difference!!

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    *Scribners, if they don't want the broken tools, I would take them off your hands. I work at the firehouse with a guy who is great at welding and fabricating. PM if you are interested.

    * Blueberryhill, where did you get a tool for $50?

    * General question, I have a micro torch. Just a little thing, is this too much heat to soften it up?
    2012 150 taps on bags
    2013 880 taps on bags (yes we jumped that much)
    2014 A minimum of 500 taps, as many as we can get on tubing
    2015 Same as 2014, more tubing
    2016 496 on tubing (278 on vacuum) 51 bags

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    When trying to splice say a drop line (a T) or any fitting into the 5/16th lines i have always cut it, then chewed the ends of the 5/16th line to make it malleable enough to slide over the barbs on the fitting.

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    Oh man.. Well first of all your gonna get the education on bacteria introduction into your system. So chewing is a no no. Some use hot water in a thermos but that can be comber some. Tell you what, u can make your own tubing tools. Plenty of guys on here have. A buddy of mine made my two handed tubing tool and my one handed tool for me. I think I paid him $40 for each toll. They work awesome
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    We started tubing with hot water in a thermos and maybe some chewing, but learned it was definitely harder. We pre-assembled the drops at the house with hot water, but had to put them in. A tool definitely makes it easier from the actual spreading of the line and pushing the line onto the fittings.

    If you need a tool to do the 75 taps let me know. I don't they we are too far apart and would be willing to swing over and loan my tool. I would be willing to help and this should not take too long either. I still doing some set up here so I cannot let the tool go away for too long, but it sounds like you could at least see that one worth the investment.

    Send me an IM I am checking the site frequently this time of year like everyone else.

    Mike

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    Fireman, I think they are interested. I may have another one and will PM if I do.

    Ben

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    I built my two handed tool for under $50. I did not buy one for that price.
    More taps than the year before. Bigger shack than the year before. Leader Patriot 2x6 w/hood. 3-post Dolly, but still too much sap and not enough wood or time.
    www.wickedsappy.com

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    Well dang. I was over to Alstead Friday to pick up my new Smokey Lake back up syrup pan. The trucker had left it in on the syrup dock. Next to it was a whole pallet of red 30p and it had a sign on it: "Strawberry - VSMA Only."
    Bruce Treat
    750 Sugar Maple Taps
    3/16 w/ .225 Spiles
    H2O Innovation RO
    2X6 Grimm w/ Preheater & Blower
    Bow, New Hampshire

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