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  1. #11
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    I am pretty close to you. I live in Markleton Pa and plan on tapping this weekend. Been busy building a new sugar shack which should be all done today. If your interested in some decent keellers I have hundreds of them I will sell you some cheap. Message me if your interested.
    2nd generation maple producer
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    My Cousin in Markelton told me he was tapping today. He has 1200 taps.
    3X10 Lappiere Cross Flow Raised Flue
    Lappiere 250 Turbo RO
    800 ish taps??? for 2015
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    MAY THE SAP BE WITH YOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by KV Sappers View Post
    I started last year and boiled on my kitchen stove.This year I'm boiling on a 3 burner high propane stove with a custom made syrup pan with 3 dividers and a preheater pan sitting on top. I'm boiling 4 gph and only have the burners turned about a 1/4 open. Probably could get more gph if I opened the burners up more. Doesn't matter what you use, just tap some trees and go for it. Be fore warned though, this sugar making is addictive!!
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    How much propane are you going through on your rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberwolf View Post
    How much propane are you going through on your rig?
    I tapped Jan. 24 and have boiled down 183 gal. of sap and have used 42 gals. of propane. Propane is not a cheap way to go but I like the convenience of it. If I need to go somewhere I can just turn my burners off and walk away. My biggest problem this year, was not enough pressure in my 30lb. tank. Next year, I'm going at least a 100lb tank or bigger.
    2011 - 6 buckets
    Stove Top
    2012 - 15 buckets
    2013 - 19 buckets
    Camper cook stove with 3 high propane burners
    Custom made 42x14x7 maple pan with dividers
    2015 - New 12x16 Sugar Shack
    2015 - New Lapierre Propane Evaporator
    2016 - 28 buckets
    2017 - 30 buckets
    2019 - 32 buckets

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    KV Sappers,
    You might want to rethink that 100lb cylinder. Your lack of pressure is due to a lack of surface area inside your propane tank for the liquid propane to boil off into propane gas. Trying to run 3 large burners off of 1 tank is asking a lot of it. Most 30lb and 100lb cylinders are the same diameter so you will have more propane storage, but not an increased rate of gas production. You will need a propane tank with a greater diameter, or you could manifold 2 of the smaller tanks together doubling your surface area for your gas supply.
    Last edited by Ma&Pa-sapper; 02-22-2014 at 07:49 PM.

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    Dang, first post and I put my foot in my mouth
    Visually the 2 size tanks had always looked the same diameter to me, and they both froze up just as easily when running my construction heaters full bore off of a single tank. Checking more carefully online I found that there is a bit of an increase in size going up to a 100# cylinder.

    Assuming a wall thickness of 1/8”
    30# Manchester cylinder will give you roughly 111.41 square inches of surface area
    100# Manchester cylinder will give you roughly 172.27 square inches of surface area
    30# Worthington will give you a roughly 113.10 square inches of surface area
    100# Worthington will give you a roughly 162.41 square inches of surface area

    If you were getting by on a 30# cylinder with just a little difficulty, it looks like a 100# cylinder may be the ticket. I just did not want you to invest in something that would not do the job.

    http://www.missiongas.com/lpgbottledimensions.htm
    Propane cylinder dimensions.JPG

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