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    Default Air powered diaphragm pump

    I would like to replace the the hand pump on my 7" six plate filter press, Any recommendations for an affordable air powered pump?
    2018 25 taps, two turkey fryers, 4 gallons
    2019 75 taps, Mason 2'x4, XL, 10'x12' shack
    2020 150 Taps Mason 2x4XL RO15 Bucket. no sugar%
    2021 250ish Taps Mason 2x4 XL RO 20 bucket , going to be busy, 40 gallons made
    2022 400ish taps 2x4 Smokey Lake Drop Flue single post 4x40 RO

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    This pump would work fine, it's much like the one I use except mine says max temp 200F, I run up to 210F thru it, with no issues. However, this one is rated for 225F, even better.
    Aro #PD01P-HPS-PAA-A Specifications
    Zoro #: G5384337 Mfr #: PD01P-HPS-PAA-A

    Suggestion, if possible keep the compressor remotly located. I used mine 1 season in the sugarhouse, after that I ran a trench for electric and air to my shop at about 80' from the sugarhouse. I then placed the compressor in the shop, and using the 3/4" air line between the shop and the sugarhouse, I ran it that way, now no compressor noise. Since my shop power runs from the sugarhouse (I have a 200A panel there, and I send 100A to the shop), way better. I can turn the shop power on and off at the sugarhouse panel, thus I just leave the compressor turned on, and run it from the sugarhouse. In the sugarhouse, just before the air line goes into the diaphragm pump I have a ball valve and a pressure regulator, giving me complete control. From the low point in the trench, I attached a drain line, out the bottom of the 3/4" mainline. That way, I just open a valve on the side of the sugarhouse to blead out moisture.
    Last edited by maple flats; 09-01-2022 at 07:12 PM.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I run the same Warren pump as Dave on my 10 inch press. They were about $400 when I got mine. Now they are about $750. My next one will be this pump. https://www.toolots.com/1-2-stainles...Made+in+Taiwan
    William
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    3 X 12 Thor pans on a Brian Arch
    CDL 600 expandable

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    The" taiwan" pump specs show 3 different diaphragm materials, there doesn't seem to be a way to select a material,
    What material diaphragm should I be looking for?
    2018 25 taps, two turkey fryers, 4 gallons
    2019 75 taps, Mason 2'x4, XL, 10'x12' shack
    2020 150 Taps Mason 2x4XL RO15 Bucket. no sugar%
    2021 250ish Taps Mason 2x4 XL RO 20 bucket , going to be busy, 40 gallons made
    2022 400ish taps 2x4 Smokey Lake Drop Flue single post 4x40 RO

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vZj2hHkXpKSBJqJFA

    https://www.facebook.com/kelseybrook...FIVmIotuulHl4W

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    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D36RV13...roduct_details What are your alls thoughts on this one?
    '12 15 jugs - Steam pans
    '17 125 3/16 - 18" x 72" drop flue on homemade arch
    '18 240 3/16 - Deer Run 125
    '19 450 3/16 - Converted RO to electric/added a membrane
    '20 600 3/16 - Maple Pro 2x6 Raised Flue, added AOF/AUF
    '21 570 3/16 - Built steam hood, Smoky Lake filter press
    '22 800 3/16 - Upgraded RO to 4 4x40
    '23 500 3/16 - Re-plumbed RO, new "Guzzler"
    '24 500 3/16 - Steam Away, DIY 8x40 RO

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    I wouldn't use it. You should be looking for one with a minimum temp. rating of 200 degrees or more.
    First introduced to making maple syrup in 1969
    Making syrup every year since 1979
    3 x 10 oil fired
    Revolution syrup and max flue pan
    Almost 1300 taps total with 900 on high vacuum
    Bought first Marcland drawoff in 1997, still going strong.

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    I'm also looking at the" happybuy" pump
    2018 25 taps, two turkey fryers, 4 gallons
    2019 75 taps, Mason 2'x4, XL, 10'x12' shack
    2020 150 Taps Mason 2x4XL RO15 Bucket. no sugar%
    2021 250ish Taps Mason 2x4 XL RO 20 bucket , going to be busy, 40 gallons made
    2022 400ish taps 2x4 Smokey Lake Drop Flue single post 4x40 RO

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vZj2hHkXpKSBJqJFA

    https://www.facebook.com/kelseybrook...FIVmIotuulHl4W

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmbmkr View Post
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D36RV13...roduct_details What are your alls thoughts on this one?
    In the specs I see "drink" but no mention of max temperature. I'd shy away unless it's rated at 200+F, and it leeds me to think it was speced by someone who doesn't really know english. In this country we don't normally say it's good for drink, but potable water or FDA approved. Buyer beware!
    Last edited by maple flats; 09-10-2022 at 02:20 PM.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    It was futher down in the description, the max. temp. is 150*.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill m View Post
    I wouldn't use it. You should be looking for one with a minimum temp. rating of 200 degrees or more.
    Quote Originally Posted by tombaisley View Post
    I'm also looking at the" happybuy" pump
    Quote Originally Posted by bmbmkr View Post
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D36RV13...roduct_details What are your alls thoughts on this one?
    Don't... that's a cheap knock-off...As always, you will get what you pay for.
    John Allin

    14x18 Hemlock Timber Frame Sugar House 2009
    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
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