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    So most in PA have been reporting very low sugar sap this year. This is my first year and I have been us seeing 1% that has dropped to .5% for my woods Norways, and have seen a consistent 2% or a little better for the open Norways.

    If this year is unusually low, how much higher would a more normal sugar amount be? So if you are seeing 1% this year is your normal 1.5%, 2%, 2.5%? Looking for what I might expect in a normal year for my trees. If my open trees are 2% this year, will they be 2.5% in a normal year? Guesstimates are appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoman15 View Post
    So most in PA have been reporting very low sugar sap this year. This is my first year and I have been us seeing 1% that has dropped to .5% for my woods Norways, and have seen a consistent 2% or a little better for the open Norways.

    If this year is unusually low, how much higher would a more normal sugar amount be? So if you are seeing 1% this year is your normal 1.5%, 2%, 2.5%? Looking for what I might expect in a normal year for my trees. If my open trees are 2% this year, will they be 2.5% in a normal year? Guesstimates are appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Joe
    With what I call yard trees, the canopies will be larger and in return the sap volume and sugar content tend to be higher. Now there are always exceptions to the rule.

    I have mostly sugar's with a few red's mixed in and they are all woods trees. A good year for my trees will be right at 1.5%, it all goes down from there. This season the 1st 2 or 3 runs I had sap above 1%, just barely. Then they settled in to 1% and stayed there.
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    Thanks Dennis.

    So good year versus bad year of sugar is .5%. I thought maybe there would be more swing than that.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoman15 View Post
    Thanks Dennis.

    So good year versus bad year of sugar is .5%. I thought maybe there would be more swing than that.

    Joe
    Gentics of the tree has a lot to do also, there are so many factors that go into play on how much and how sweet the sap will flow.
    One thing that fascinated me when I was doing buckets was seeing how different the sap flowed from the trees. 2 trees that we next to each other and one bucket would be overflowing and the other would be maybe 1/4 full.
    Now that I am on tubing I can not do that.
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    Cooked tonight, got about 20 gallons of sap down to around 3 gallons and next thing i know, im in the middle of a mini blizzard and had to shut it down. Grrrrrrrrr......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticknstring View Post
    Cooked tonight, got about 20 gallons of sap down to around 3 gallons and next thing i know, im in the middle of a mini blizzard and had to shut it down. Grrrrrrrrr......
    Sounds like you are getting a good amount of sap. Aren't you glad you put those buckets back out?
    This weekend is looking good for you.
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    Yeah, Dennis, doing ok with sap i guess on only 3 taps right now. One tree is pumping it out, the other two are slower going. But for the time and podunk operation i have, 20-30 gallons is a good number to light a fire for. Will definitely be making some changes for next year to be able to boil more sap quicker. Then we can tap more trees and up the haul. Have greatly appreciated the help from you all this year.

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    Still plugging along here in central Pa. It finally thawed out enough today to gather, first time since Monday.
    Boiled about 225 gallons to night ,and looks like we made a little over 5 gallons. the amazing thing is it was only
    3 draws! Oh Well we'll take it however it comes. Sap seemed to be running steady this afternoon, although it was very windy
    and snow showers. We are getting close to having a pretty good season. Something I would not have said 3 weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoman15 View Post
    So most in PA have been reporting very low sugar sap this year. This is my first year and I have been us seeing 1% that has dropped to .5% for my woods Norways, and have seen a consistent 2% or a little better for the open Norways.

    If this year is unusually low, how much higher would a more normal sugar amount be? So if you are seeing 1% this year is your normal 1.5%, 2%, 2.5%? Looking for what I might expect in a normal year for my trees. If my open trees are 2% this year, will they be 2.5% in a normal year? Guesstimates are appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Joe
    Joe,
    Most of the time the sugar maples we tap at at or slightly above 2%.
    Dipped to 1.8% twice this year.
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