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Old 11-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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Default 20 gal Plastic Soda Jugs

A friend of mine has plastic soda jugs that he was using last year to collect sap in. They're 20 gal and I guess they took the place of the s/s kegs for soda companies. They look like the 5 gal jugs we use, just taller. Is anybody using them and have they found any problems with them? I can get them used from a local company, not sure on the cost, but I don't think it was much.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:10 AM
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Josh I've been using them for sap storage also. But I'd be leary about using them for syurp storage, at least the used ones. They tend to really hold the soda smell in them. In fact I'm only trying to use ginger ale ones now. The dr pepper jug that I tried, I couldn't get rid of the smell no matter what I tried.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:50 PM
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Thanks Alden.

Anybody have any idea where I can get new ones?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:57 PM
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:52 PM
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I don't know about new??? maybe internet search but Magnason farms on rt 125 on the left from you past the rockingham county court house in kingston.

has different sized used range from 20 - 55 gallon blue grey and white I am goin gover tomorrow if there is a break in wether to get a few more white ones they had sushi seasoning in them just sweet not much flavor. $20 each.

the other thing you can use is rubbermaid 26 gallon(if thats the size you want) comercial trash cans. I think grey, green, and other colors I got in in touch with rubbermaid sometime ago and certain colors are food grade. You can look on the lid and bottom of the trash can. We used to use them to freeze lobster bodies in for lobster stock, Freezing old bagels for bagels chips amoung other things when I used to work in hotels.

just looked Baytec...they have sales so prices vary. a little pricey but if you want new that seems the place to go. bayteccontainers.com or just search baytec containers
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:18 PM
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...the other thing you can use is rubbermaid 26 gallon(if thats the size you want) comercial trash cans. I think grey, green, and other colors I got in in touch with rubbermaid sometime ago and certain colors are food grade.
Please note that not all of these containers are food grade. They are only food grade if they say they are food grade. Color isn't a reliable indicator. Some companies do sell food-grade plastic containers, but they are NOT trash cans, and generally cost considerably more.

If it is being sold as a trash can, at the price you'd pay for a trash can, chances are it should be used for trash and NOT for sap. Non-food-grade containers are made from re-grind materials and can leach toxics into sap. DON'T USE THEM.

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:53 PM
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If you go to the United States Plastics web site who make Rubber Made by the way you can find lots of barrels and they ship. All sizes and shapes and colors and uses.
I found a sourse for food grade white plastic barrels that had lube for meat plants in it. I guess they actually spray this stuff on the cutting tables to make stuff slide easy.
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Baytec has reconditioned food grade soda drums 20 gallon
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Please note that not all of these containers are food grade. They are only food grade if they say they are food grade. Color isn't a reliable indicator. Some companies do sell food-grade plastic containers, but they are NOT trash cans, and generally cost considerably more.

If it is being sold as a trash can, at the price you'd pay for a trash can, chances are it should be used for trash and NOT for sap. Non-food-grade containers are made from re-grind materials and can leach toxics into sap. DON'T USE THEM.

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Then why did rubbermaid tell me they could be used for food contact??? it says right on the container food contact #2 I asked them what that ment they said it is fine for food. most plastics containers are around $1 + per gallon. these are priced the same.

I am not using any I have white 50 gallon drums. just saying what they told me.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:12 AM
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I find the same. The plastic pails that bakerys use and that oil for deep fryers comes in are marked 2 also. So I would say that if it's marked recycle 2 that it's all made out of the same plastic but I could be wrong. I don't use garbage cans becasuse the lids usually fit poor and they are too big to move full.
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