Looks like we have a day off, was wondering what works better on niter build up? First year with permeate.
Looks like we have a day off, was wondering what works better on niter build up? First year with permeate.
5th generation
2 1/2 Buckets
815 gravity
2 new flat pans. Back pan now has 16 V's
Rebuilt the block arch 3x12
Homemade pre-heater,steamhood
MES Dolly RO
I find hot permeate for 24 hours works well but in the syrup pan I usually need to use vinegar. You could mix vinegar with the permeate and just bring to a boil then shut down. Pressure washer takes it from there.
Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR, concentric exhaust
Home-built auto draw off
Home-built RO - double XLE 4040, PLC controlled
8x10 Sugar Shed
200 taps on tubing with Shurflo vacuum with solar
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I found distillate from the steam away,( should be same thing) worked well for syrup pan,had to add vinegar for flue pan
7th generation maple producer in sugarhouse built in 1892
2x World Champion Maple Syrup Producer
1250 taps on cv adapters
Leader Vortex 3x14 with Max Flue and Revolution Syrup Pan,Enhanced Steam Away
www.leggettmaplesyrup.com
I mix vinegar and permeate, heat it, let it soak overnight, and flush it with more permeate. During the flush I would warm the pans up. This worked well for us.
Mike
Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.
Last year we did vinegar with tap water to soak the pans. This year with RO we use permeat with vinegar and that works much better.
Camp Wokanda
Peoria Park District
2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons
Permeate is the pure water produced from processing sap through a reverse osmosis machine. It is great for cleaning as it has no mineral content. That said I find vinegar soaking ro be a better solution for syrup pan cleaning.
About 750 taps on High Vac.
2.5 x 8 Intens-O-Fire
Airtech 3 hp LR Pump
Springtech Elite 500 RO
14 x 24 Timber Frame SugarHouse
16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
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Thanks for the information
This is exactly what I do as well for my flat pans. Works VERY well. I have a video for it here:
https://youtu.be/GrDxTZQcJok
And more info here:
https://www.sugartree.run/2019/03/en...-cleaning.html
D. Roseum
www.roseummaple.com
~100 taps on 3/16 custom temp controlled vacuum; shurflo vacuum #2; custom nat gas evap with auto-drawoff and tank level gas shut-off controller; homemade RO #1; homemade RO #2; SL SS filter press
2021: 27.1 gallons
2022: 35 gallons
Now that I'm finally indoors, I need to learn this process.
1) After final draw of season, do you use permeate/vinegar solution to flush out pans while still warm/hot? Or let rig cool, drain, rinse & refill with solution?
2) Do you ever warm/boil solution during this process other than at rinsing?
3) what is an ideal vinegar concentrate? ratio or PH
2014 25 buckets, 55 gal collecting drum, cinder block arch, and 4 banquet pans = 4.75 gal
2015 200 buckets, (3) 300 gal tanks, 9' home made arch, (2) 2'x4' flat pans @ 25 gph = 30 gal
2016 stayed @ 200 buckets swapped flat for dropped n played with auf. 40 gph = 25 gal