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Old 11-11-2009, 06:19 PM
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Up here people also used to put formaldyhyde in the milk so that it didn't spoil and they didn't have to scald it either. The whole house used to have ulcers also they tell me. I wonder just how many old wives tales were just tales.
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:44 PM
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There is still an old sugar maker around here that use cream to clean in syrup.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:34 PM
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There is still an old sugar maker around here that use cream to clean in syrup.
Different thing. Cream was sometimes added to syrup to clarify it. Some impurities are fat soluble. Cream would added to syrup, the mixture brought to a boil, then the crud skimmed off the top. Other similar methods accomplished the same thing.

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Old 11-11-2009, 10:49 PM
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If you haven't done so, check "Exploration of the Melagenome of Sap Microflora..." at

http://www.centreacer.qc.ca/propos/E...20projects.pdf
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:42 AM
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But if you add cream to the syrup is it no longer considered pure?? I don't think it could be "Parve" ( if I am using that term correctly)

Good thread.

SO basically some of the bottom lines are
boil as soon as possible.
keep things covered to keep dust and foreign items out.
keep everything clean
try your best keep a constant fire with wood.
and change your filters everday.

One thing I was thinking about is, when your shutting down, the air is still heavy and more dense with the level of humidity and the added arroma of smoke. So, if you don't cover your pans while the sugar house and evap. are cooling down then have syrup and sap exposed in the pans may absorb some of the those aromas in your sugar house correct. Although it may be minute as you boil those "additives" are condensed.

One thing I feel is important is keeping your sap as cool as possible. there is such a thing called the "temperature danger zone". which is between 40F and 140F I think it reciently changed to 41F and 135F this is the best temperature for bacteria to grow. I know it is difficult with out proper equipment to regulate the temp. of your sap. I think I could go on and on here on the sanitation issue.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:39 PM
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The word Parve is a cojugant of parvenir which means to acheive or reach one goals. The word for pure is purer. One has to remember that cream in syrup would not be kosher either. Would be fine for most people but not everybody.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:51 PM
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I don't mind the cream. hey if it works right! although I belive it would be a bit expensive.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:50 AM
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But if you add cream to the syrup is it no longer considered pure??
Cream, milk, bacon fat or other animal based oils, balsam brush, etc. are no longer considered acceptable defoamers in many cases due to off-flavors, allergen and kosher/halal concerns. Not to say that a few don't still use it here and there, but fortunately it is becoming far less common.

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