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    Default Bubbles going backwards always mean a leak?

    First year on vacuum. I used bags last year.

    10 taps on 5/16 line and flat surface with surflow vacuum pump. There is a vacuum gauge before the pump, and the pump simply empties into a large bucket.

    Sometimes I notice the bubbles going backwards (away from pump) and then they will reverse direction. Does this mean I have a leak somewhere?

    I run the pump 24/7 (even when below freezing) and have a 60w bulb in the container to try to keep things from freezing. The container is not insulated. I'll probably switch to a cooler next year to better protect it.

    Here's a video showing a possible leak at the T before the pump.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/y-5kN7K796U?feature=share
    2015 - 8 buckets, 332L sap, 8.5L syrup - Barrel evaporator, 2 steam pans
    2016 - 8 buckets, 432L sap
    2017 - 10 bags, 470L sap, 9L syrup
    2018 - 20 bags, 1050L sap, 17.6L syrup
    2019 - 20 bags, 970L sap, 22.2L syrup
    2020 - 17 bags, 813L sap, 17L syrup

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    I've never seen the bubbles go backwards. Do you have a recirculating loop on the pump? To do that, just run a single line from the output of the pump back to the input. That helps keep the vacuum higher, a dry diaphragm doesn't get very good vacuum. In the 5/16 recirculation line, add a needle valve if you can and adjust it to just allow a little sap to go back to the pump inlet. Another option is to use 3/16 tubing for the recirculation line, but you would likely need to find a local producer who uses 3/16, it's sold in like 800' coils.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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