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    Quote Originally Posted by berkshires View Post
    Do you stop because buds are breaking, or because the trees have shut down? If the latter, if you tap later, and we still have good weather, your trees should still be running. But if your trees always bud then, I guess that's how it goes.

    Whenever I run into April, I test all my sap, but I haven't hit buddy sap yet. In 2019 we had a warm up for the first week of Feb (which I missed) and then it got cold and stayed cold - like this year. That year I didn't tap until March 10, which is almost a month after my average tap date. But I still made better than a quart per tap. So who knows. If the season doesn't start until March, and then in late March we have a warm spell, we could be screwed. Only time will tell.

    I hate waiting.

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    The buds on the reds usually open first so they get pulled, then the Norway at home and a good portion of the sugars dry up. It's a domino effect once the reds bud. The last couple years that was week 5 of being tapped (starting Feb 5) and I think 6 weeks is what I read for taps with no vacuum so I didn't question. We'll know for sure this year!
    2025 - Back to 50 taps.
    2024 - Ended with 33 taps and another pancake breakfast
    2023 - 25 taps. 9 Gallons and lots of sugar sand. 35 people over for breakfast
    2022 - 8 x 14 sugarhouse and a steam bottler. 50 buckets! 9 Gallons syrup and 4 pounds of sugar
    2021 - 20 x 30 Mason arch, 34 taps and 8 gallons. Dad hooked too.
    2020 - 2 taps, 1/2 pint on a turkey fryer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Road Maples View Post
    Waiting for it.... I have made some upgrades this year. I built an RO System, added 3/16th Tubing in our back woods for about 25 Taps. Purchased to 275 gallon IBC Totes to collect and then transfer the sap up the Hill, purchase a gas powered water transfer pump, plus 500 feet of mainline for transfering, purchased 4-55 gallon Blue sap barrels, and have been given permission from the neighbor down the street to tap a nice row of mature sugar maples for about another 20 Taps. So I will be around 75-80 Taps when all is said and done this year. And of course No Sap weather in sight ! Are we all in the same Boat? What do the big guys do? Just wait? Does a vacuum system overcome the cold weather at all or is it just one of those factors you can't control. Sap won't flow until the weather is right, right?
    Love to see someone doing all the same year-to-year upgrades that I have, that is the joy of the hobby to me even more than the yield or the duration of the season. Yep, even the big guys are bound to Mother Nature. They might have caught some earlier runs if they tapped in January but that month was (appropriately) cold, too.

    It’s a bit amusing to me that after a number of warm winters people are suddenly shocked by true weather in this climate. It’s supposed to be cold in February in New England! Ha.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Stack View Post
    The buds on the reds usually open first so they get pulled, then the Norway at home and a good portion of the sugars dry up. It's a domino effect once the reds bud. The last couple years that was week 5 of being tapped (starting Feb 5) and I think 6 weeks is what I read for taps with no vacuum so I didn't question. We'll know for sure this year!
    You probably know this already, but reds put out flowers first, and then leaves. When the flower-buds open, apparently that doesn't affect the sap, it's only later when the leaf buds start, the sap is affected.

    As for how long the tree runs, IME it's very variable. Open spiles into a bucket, in direct sunlight, dry up first. If they're north facing or very shaded they last longer. As for taps that go through a 5/16 line into a bucket, I've found they last longer than open spiles. Also, a lot depends on temperatures. Seasons with a few really hot days (60s and 70s) seem to really accelerate microbial growth, causing the tap holes to dry up early. In 2023, the early season was warm, so I was able to start early, and the late season was cold, so the trees were still flowing. I pulled taps 48 days after I tapped, but more than half my taps were still producing well. I'm sure I could've gotten another week, but I just ran out of firewood (many times over).

    This year I'm less worried about taps drying up, and more worried about budding, or hitting warm temps where the sap stops flowing. I usually pull taps right around the start of April, but this year that may be three weeks after I've tapped! So I plan to push it as far as I can into April, if Mother Nature allows it. We shall see.

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    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
    2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gals
    2025: 17 taps
    All on buckets

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    "You probably know this already, but reds put out flowers first, and then leaves. When the flower-buds open, apparently that doesn't affect the sap, it's only later when the leaf buds start, the sap is affected."

    I didn't not know this! I'll pay close attention this year.
    2025 - Back to 50 taps.
    2024 - Ended with 33 taps and another pancake breakfast
    2023 - 25 taps. 9 Gallons and lots of sugar sand. 35 people over for breakfast
    2022 - 8 x 14 sugarhouse and a steam bottler. 50 buckets! 9 Gallons syrup and 4 pounds of sugar
    2021 - 20 x 30 Mason arch, 34 taps and 8 gallons. Dad hooked too.
    2020 - 2 taps, 1/2 pint on a turkey fryer

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    Default Tapping this w/e in Berkshires

    Not surprised by a normal winter, but agree we have been lulled by the calm climate past several winters.

    Tapping now, no pump, gives six weeks until buds (if they bud at same time as last year: early April).
    2023 Blocks, 2 steam pans, 5 taps, 1 gallon
    2024 Blocks, 3 steam pans, 30 taps, 3.5 gallons
    2025: new shack, new Halfpint, 40 taps

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    I'm tapping this weekend too. If next week's forecast holds it's going to be a tsunami of a start to the season.

    GO
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
    2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gals
    2025: 17 taps
    All on buckets

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    Quote Originally Posted by berkshires View Post
    I'm tapping this weekend too. If next week's forecast holds it's going to be a tsunami of a start to the season.

    GO
    Yep, me too. Even in Savoy the forecast looks decent. Normally I wait until the first week of March, but I am going to tap this weekend too.
    16x24 Timber Frame Sugar House
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    90 trees on buckets

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    Tapping here Sunday. As Gabe also mentioned, if the forecast holds Sapageddon will be upon us immediately.
    2025 - Back to 50 taps.
    2024 - Ended with 33 taps and another pancake breakfast
    2023 - 25 taps. 9 Gallons and lots of sugar sand. 35 people over for breakfast
    2022 - 8 x 14 sugarhouse and a steam bottler. 50 buckets! 9 Gallons syrup and 4 pounds of sugar
    2021 - 20 x 30 Mason arch, 34 taps and 8 gallons. Dad hooked too.
    2020 - 2 taps, 1/2 pint on a turkey fryer

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    Good luck to all you eastern producers. If your season starts like ours did here in southern Ohio, you better have plenty of sap storage open and ready. I made a whole seasons worth of syrup in less then 3 weeks. It froze up and reset the trees this past week and I got a chance to rest and move some firewood. I'm expecting round two of the flood starting Monday.
    125-150 taps
    Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
    Modified half pint arch
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    All 3/16 tubing
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