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    Default 5/16 system on a 60gph diaphragm pump

    Here’s a thought…I have another section of woods that would be ideal for a 5/16 setup with maybe 100 taps, kind of a ravine with maples on either slope.

    If I ran a 1/2” or 3/4” mainline would a 60gpd pump give me the vacuum to effectively run such a setup? I could maintain a decent slope the entire length of the mainline to the bottom of our property.

    I ask because happen to have an extra pump.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
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    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
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    If you don't have a lot of lift and/or distance to push after the pump, I don't see why that wouldn't work. You'd want to keep on top of any potential leaks though. I'd guess if it was really running hard you may get around 15gph of sap with 100 taps. That would keep up. Having slope also helps eliminate a need for a recirculation line too, so you won't have to worry about that reducing your effective capacity.

    Give it a shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleTapper View Post
    If you don't have a lot of lift and/or distance to push after the pump, I don't see why that wouldn't work. You'd want to keep on top of any potential leaks though. I'd guess if it was really running hard you may get around 15gph of sap with 100 taps. That would keep up. Having slope also helps eliminate a need for a recirculation line too, so you won't have to worry about that reducing your effective capacity.

    Give it a shot!
    Cool, yeah — I figure the pump is more to facilitate the flow of gravity in that case. I've been running 3/16 lines for going on 4 seasons, and that's worked well; there are just other areas of our property I'd love to develop that aren't quite as conducive to natural gravity.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_XJ View Post
    Here’s a thought…I have another section of woods that would be ideal for a 5/16 setup with maybe 100 taps, kind of a ravine with maples on either slope.

    If I ran a 1/2” or 3/4” mainline would a 60gpd pump give me the vacuum to effectively run such a setup? I could maintain a decent slope the entire length of the mainline to the bottom of our property.

    I ask because happen to have an extra pump.
    Is it 60 GPD or 60 GPH? If it’s only per day then that pump could actually slow down sap flow. Per hour would be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Is it 60 GPD or 60 GPH? If it’s only per day then that pump could actually slow down sap flow. Per hour would be fine.
    It is per hour, yep. Quite a large pump.
    --
    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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