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  1. #1
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    Finally got around to jumping back on the trader. Added one inch mainline this year with 3/4 inch branches with all 5/16 laterals. Should have done this from the outset but as you all know we start out slow and get there. I am on pace to lose enough money this year to really feel like I am sugaring Many thanks to Jared at four paws maple for help with the installation. So off we go added a guzzler pump as well and up to 163 taps this year.
    Now to tapping. The last time I looked I am thinking about this weekend but need to dive back into the weather tomorrow. Only will take me a day so I can really try to time it. This is looking like a more traditional start or may be. Last year I boiled on Feb 3rd. I don't see that happening this year. Trying not to get too trigger happy. I was tempted to tap this weekend but the association meeting and the cold weather forecast this week made the decision a little easier.
    Association meeting was very good and one of the many things that stuck with me was when Dr. Tim from UVM said 80% of the sap we collect come from 20% of the sap flow events. In other word catch the big boys don't chase the margins at least at my tap count. Good luck to all the big and small timers in 2025. Might be a 2X6 in my future.........

    19x48 mini pro oil fired, Nano R/O, CDL Vacuum Press, Mountain Maple Vacuum setup & Guzzler
    6x12 sugar house off back of shed
    2024-103 Taps Mostly Sugars, Dozen Reds
    2025-163 Taps
    "The days are long, but the years are short"

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    Can't wait to hear how the mainline works. I started with a mainline on a shurflo, went terrible (did bad job attaching saddles), switched to all 3/16 on shurflo. Up to 230 taps this year, 10 runs of 3/16" all the way back to a guzzler with a manifold. Ran about 22" last year. I want to switch back to a mainline and 5/16 but am trying really hard to keep the projects down and the fun up this year. FYI, not sure if you are heating your pump box at all, but that guzzler will get the box up to 70 real quick. I'm adding a fan to my insulated/heated pump box this year to keep the temps down during the day.
    Hillcrest Maples
    2024- 200 on Guzzler, new home built 2 post, SL vac filter
    2023-100 on Shurflo, new 2 Post 4x40 RO Bucket
    2022- 150 on Shurflo, new 16x36 Sugar House and 18x48 Vision, Dual RB 25's RO's
    2021- 150 on Shurflo, home made arch under 18x40 cdl pan, RB 20 RO
    2020- 99 On Shurflo home made arch under 18x40 cdl pan
    2019- 10 buckets, steam pan on grill
    2018- 5 spiles into milk jugs, stove top, caught the maple bug hard.

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    LMP I'm glad you're happy and excited for this year. I'm eager to see your holding tanks brimming with sap.
    You're going to need that 2x6 real soon.
    Hillcrest maple could I pick your brain about your homemade 2 post RO? I'm thinking of building one but don't really know where to start.
    Thanks -Jared
    2025- 500 taps on vac
    200 on gravity
    Customized 2x8 raised flue vision
    2 sugar crazed Akitas and one awfully patient wife

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    Almost pulled the trigger on tapping today. I had actually planned on it but by the time I got my yard and the neighbors cleared of snow it was cold and cloudy so I hemmed and hawed had a cup of coffee and decided against it. Of course now it is 43 and sunny. I hate this time of year, second guessing decisions watching the weather like a lunatic but I guess that is part of the fun.
    So I've mentally moved on. Looking at likely Sunday to tap now, as always need to hammer down on the weather and make a call. Its funny I feel a little behind this year but I have tapped as late as the last week in Feb to as early as the last week in Jan. so need to stop overthinking it. With sugaring you always feel behind or like you are missing a sap run window, every year same story.
    Thanks for the advice on the guzzler Hillcrest. Ill take the heat as long as it is working hard! Jared I hope you build that R/O. By far best return of investment by 100 fold.

    19x48 mini pro oil fired, Nano R/O, CDL Vacuum Press, Mountain Maple Vacuum setup & Guzzler
    6x12 sugar house off back of shed
    2024-103 Taps Mostly Sugars, Dozen Reds
    2025-163 Taps
    "The days are long, but the years are short"

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    Let us know what you end up doing, when you tap, what your collection system is (buckets?) and your season's yield!
    Totally agree about that stress!
    I've decided to be done with that stress and be a calendar tapper! (give or a take maybe 5 days)
    (i.e., I've turned into an old timer!)
    (I'll still be stressed out though)
    Last edited by Andy VT; 01-29-2025 at 01:50 PM.
    2024: 28 taps, 7 gallons. RB5 purchased but not opened :-(
    2023: 30 taps, 17 trees, 11 properties, Sugar Maple & Norway. 2x3 flat over propane & kitchen finish. ~11(!) gallons.
    2022: 9 taps, 5 trees, 4 properties. 3 hotel pans on 3 Coleman 2-burner stoves burning gasoline; kitchen finish. ~3 gallons.
    2021: 2 taps, 1 sugar maple. Propane grill then kitchen finish. ~Pint.
    All years: mainly 5/16" drops into free supermarket frosting buckets. Some plastic sap buckets hanging on 5/16 sap-meister.

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    Phil I'm very interested in how you make out so keep me posted please and there is a r.o in the future for 4 paws but I want to be able to set it up right. So tank room addition, plumbing and some proper electrical. So it looks like raw sap this season, hopefully the sugar is up
    2025- 500 taps on vac
    200 on gravity
    Customized 2x8 raised flue vision
    2 sugar crazed Akitas and one awfully patient wife

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    Still holding on tapping here in Wilton. 10 day outlook doesn't look good. One or two days near 40, but that probably won't produce much with the trees being frozen up tight.
    Funny, with last years' early runs, I was planning on tapping mid-Jan. With the cold weather this year..........might be looking at tapping mid-Feb. Crazy business, this maple stuff.
    LMP, Good luck with the mainline; I think you'll love it. Have about 120 of mine on a 3/4 mainline; and it outperforms everything.
    Hillcrest, I've had very good success with the DSD Stars saddles. One band clamp and you're done. Haven't had a leak yet.
    Thanks, Bill
    2017 - 2019 - Getting my feet wet. 3-80 taps
    2020 - Barn / Sugarhouse finished. 125 taps. NextGen 1x40 RO
    2021 - 157 taps, 100 on 3/16 tubing w/two Shurflo set-ups, the rest on buckets
    2022 - 225 taps. 175 on 3/16 tubing, rest on buckets.
    2023 - 300 taps. 261 on tubing, 39 on 5 gal. buckets. Four Shurflo 12V set-ups.
    2024 - 340 taps. New SL 2x4 hybrid pan. Added second 1x40 membrane to RO
    2025 - 340 taps. 301 on tubing, 39 on 5 gal. buckets. Four Shurflo 12V set-ups.

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    Still holding off on tapping here. I feel like the scene in Braveheart where he is ridding down the line saying hold...hold....hold...just waiting to drop the hammer! Thought about drilling today but the snow/sleet we had on Friday into Saturday was still clinging tight to the trees. I'd like to see some of that melting off a bit before I hit the woods. I did make it out to the tank to set up the pump and do some woods clean-up. Tomorrow and Tuesday do look good temp wise then its back to the tundra. I don't think they wound run hard the next two days but maybe. Really the 10 day forecast is not a dead bang winner from what I can tell. At 163 it wont take me long. The waiting is the hardest part......

    19x48 mini pro oil fired, Nano R/O, CDL Vacuum Press, Mountain Maple Vacuum setup & Guzzler
    6x12 sugar house off back of shed
    2024-103 Taps Mostly Sugars, Dozen Reds
    2025-163 Taps
    "The days are long, but the years are short"

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    Waiting, waiting, waiting. Still in a holding pattern here. 6 inches of slop coming tonight then 50 mph winds. Then cold at least into next weekend with another storm predicted for Thursday. I keep saying I'm tapping this weekend every weekend no matter what then the no matter what happens. I do not see anything above freezing into next weekend with the exception of a 33 or 4 here and there. I'm not worried, however a quick sustained warmup would really put us in a bad spot. The good news is I may actually have real sap for the open house weekend for once, hell I may not even be tapped by then
    Thank god this is a hobby for me. It looks like they are doing well down south and they certainly have paid their dues with some bad years.

    19x48 mini pro oil fired, Nano R/O, CDL Vacuum Press, Mountain Maple Vacuum setup & Guzzler
    6x12 sugar house off back of shed
    2024-103 Taps Mostly Sugars, Dozen Reds
    2025-163 Taps
    "The days are long, but the years are short"

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    Same here, still holding. 10-day looks pretty good starting Saturday. May go for it then. Fingers crossed.

    Bill
    2017 - 2019 - Getting my feet wet. 3-80 taps
    2020 - Barn / Sugarhouse finished. 125 taps. NextGen 1x40 RO
    2021 - 157 taps, 100 on 3/16 tubing w/two Shurflo set-ups, the rest on buckets
    2022 - 225 taps. 175 on 3/16 tubing, rest on buckets.
    2023 - 300 taps. 261 on tubing, 39 on 5 gal. buckets. Four Shurflo 12V set-ups.
    2024 - 340 taps. New SL 2x4 hybrid pan. Added second 1x40 membrane to RO
    2025 - 340 taps. 301 on tubing, 39 on 5 gal. buckets. Four Shurflo 12V set-ups.

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