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    Default Missouri Ice Storm Damage-What to do next?

    We just experienced the worst ice storm in 45 years in our area. We had about 3/8 to 1/2 inch of ice. Most of the maples are still standing, but 50%+ have missing and splintered branches. Some only a small branch or two, others have dropped 3-6” branches. For those of you who have experienced this, how did you proceed? Did you still tap? How did it affect yield? What is the best practice for a situation like this? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
    Now I have an outdoor hobby for all 12 months. Like I need anything more to do
    About 1000 taps on gravity tubing, MicRO2 RO, 2.5 X 8 Leader King, and a 1953 Willys Jeep to run around the maple woods with.
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    That happened around here in 1997 some never recovered from it. I am sorry, that is bad news to hear. If the lines are there,might as well tap them and get what you can. Some won't be worth tapping after this year. I hope you can recover from this.
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    I echo Brian’s thoughts. I still can tell which trees were damaged in the past 2-3 major ice storms we have had. Cut down trees that were damaged to the point that they never recovered. Tap them this year and try to get back during the late summer before the leaves drop off, to look at them and see how well they are doing.
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    I agree, we had this happen to us and I still tapped them. Most that lost a significant amount of their crown declined over the years. I cut some for logs and left some. Of the ones left most have bow fallen or are standing mostly dead. It's sad but you just have to deal with what weather brings you. I would tap them now and watch later. If they show signs of poor health I'd cull them out.
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    Thanks for your input. I’ve decided to go ahead and tap and see what happens. Got about 400 taps out and in those areas so far I think about 5-6 trees were total losses. The rest of the damage wasn’t as bad as I thought on my initial assessment.
    Now I have an outdoor hobby for all 12 months. Like I need anything more to do
    About 1000 taps on gravity tubing, MicRO2 RO, 2.5 X 8 Leader King, and a 1953 Willys Jeep to run around the maple woods with.
    http://www.gihringfamilyfarm.com/

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    Research after the 1998 ice storm in the northeast showed that most trees recovered fairly well, even with 50% or more crown loss. So don't be too quick about salvage cutting. Go ahead and tap as normal...you aren't going to hurt them any more than they've already been damaged and hold off on any cutting decisions for a few years, except for those trees/large branches that have already fallen. You're likely to see lower sap yields from highly damaged trees through.

    https://mapleresearch.org/search/?_sf_s=ice%20storm
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    Maple (and all kinds of other) trees are shockingly resilient...there is a large one near our collection tote that looks like it was shattered half-way up years ago due to another tree falling on it. The remaining cambium layer on one section continued to grow outward and it also shot up a new leader, it now looks like a giant letter "F."

    All to say, I put a bucket on it every year just to see and it runs great.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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