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    We vent ours to the outside of the building. Definitely need to run a little more metal pipe than we did with the liquid ring pump due to heat. I haven't run it enough to be able to compare it to our old one.

    Mike
    Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.

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    I run a 2 hp CDL rotary vane pump and am overall pleased. It runs 26-29” regularly. It is impressively quiet and takes little oil. I plump the exhaust out of the building and it leaves a yellow oily residue. I will say I am not impressed with my CDL moisture trap as it failed 3 times last year.
    Last edited by Mooneybc; 02-08-2024 at 07:41 AM.
    825 Taps
    CDL Rotary Vane Vacuum Pump
    H2O Electric Releaser

    2024- 825 taps 17725 gallons of sap
    2023- 825 taps 17325 gallons of sap
    2022- 800 taps 12375 gallons of sap
    2021- 350 taps 3815 gallons of sap

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    We have three moisture traps. Two (one each) CDL black units in our shacks near the mechanical releasers and a 3" one at the vacuum pump. The pump is located 65' above the releaser locations and sap has never made it that far.

    With that said the releasers have had a couple issues (maybe more maintenance and maybe cooler temp related) which resulted in not dumping and the traps filling. They did their job.

    Mike
    Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    The pumps from CDL are just re- branded Becker pumps. Exact same.
    Not true. Last I knew, cdl pumps were of China origin. Becker pumps are manufactured in Germany and are good quality. Their facility in the US is in Ohio. I have personally been there and toured it. I run two of the U pumps. The U5.101 I have on my 6000 tap woods. It is a 70.6 cfm pump. Typical yields are 40-45 gallons sap per tap and around 7lbs syrup per tap. Becker customer service is second to none.
    Neil

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    Wow, 40-45 GPT is crazy good. I wish I could get that. What’s your secret? I’m lucky to get 25 GPT.

    Spud

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    My moisture trap failed today and my CDL rotary vacuum pump ended up Sucking a lot of sap through it. I changed the filter and drained the pump of oil several times today but every time I start the pump the new oil immediately turns a yellowish white. Any tips or thoughts on how to get all the oil out completely?
    825 Taps
    CDL Rotary Vane Vacuum Pump
    H2O Electric Releaser

    2024- 825 taps 17725 gallons of sap
    2023- 825 taps 17325 gallons of sap
    2022- 800 taps 12375 gallons of sap
    2021- 350 taps 3815 gallons of sap

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    Drain the oil and replace it with diesel fuel. Run the pump for a few hours and then drain the fuel out and replace it with oil.

    Spud

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    Quote Originally Posted by spud View Post
    Drain the oil and replace it with diesel fuel. Run the pump for a few hours and then drain the fuel out and replace it with oil.

    Spud
    That seriously works? That won’t destroy the pump or vanes?
    825 Taps
    CDL Rotary Vane Vacuum Pump
    H2O Electric Releaser

    2024- 825 taps 17725 gallons of sap
    2023- 825 taps 17325 gallons of sap
    2022- 800 taps 12375 gallons of sap
    2021- 350 taps 3815 gallons of sap

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    Yes it works. I have done it in the past. Call CDL in Saint Albans and ask for Park. He knows pumps better than anyone.

    Spud

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    i clean my bb4 pump at the end of the year, or if i suck some sap up, with diesel. i usually let it run for half an hour or so, then drain and fill back up with oil. On the subject of oil turning yellow/white... i bought a large container of pump oil last season that would be clear when cold, then once the pump would run, would turn cloudy for the first 20-30 minutes, then would be crystal clear. can't recall the brand, but i was told it was normal for some oils? not 100% sure if that's correct, but my pump preformed normal with it. for what it's worth...
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