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    Oh, just the nitre... 20L of syrup absolutely clogged all the my pre-filters and filter. Was even sand left in bottom of finishing pan... Never seen that.
    Batch boiling 100+ taps on my homemade AUF arch
    Family of 7 that puts syrup on everything

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    Ok finally got batvh #1 done...94l of sap just over 3 l light amber syrup...31:1 ratio! Happy!
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    Yep finding the same. Can only get 14-15 L through the filters before they clog. So need a 2nd pan and more filters. And lots of vinegar!
    Off-grid sugar shack, no electricity or RO
    2024-25 2x8 raised flu evaporator, 265 taps
    2019-23 3/16 lines, 2x6 oil tank evaporator, 41-167 taps
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    Huh...I'm getting fairly little nitre but lots of scale.

    ETA: now that I've corrected the density, that 94.4l sap became 3.4 l syrup. 27.7:1 ratio, even better than 31:1! Wow this is gonna be a great season!
    Last edited by Galena; 03-20-2023 at 04:13 PM.
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    Galena
    Milk-stone remover is the generic name for the cleaner used in the wash cycle of milking systems. It should only be used on stainless pans. Parlor brite is the brand name of the product my local supplier sells. A cup of it with 20L of water and I just recycle it all season in our 2x2 syrup pans. Any dairy supplies dealers will have their brand.
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    Sugaring since 1981
    242 taps on 3/16-5/16 gravity tubing
    2x6 Henway wood fired arch
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    Quote Originally Posted by limestone View Post
    Galena
    Milk-stone remover is the generic name for the cleaner used in the wash cycle of milking systems. It should only be used on stainless pans. Parlor brite is the brand name of the product my local supplier sells. A cup of it with 20L of water and I just recycle it all season in our 2x2 syrup pans. Any dairy supplies dealers will have their brand.
    Cheers
    Thanks, I get that it's food safe, it would have to be! I'm just concerned about it being ok to use with stainless steel pans used for sugaring. Don't want any kind of leaching of any kind of tastes into the syrup.
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galena View Post
    Thanks, I get that it's food safe, it would have to be! I'm just concerned about it being ok to use with stainless steel pans used for sugaring. Don't want any kind of leaching of any kind of tastes into the syrup.
    Good morning Galena,have used it many many times. I always boil water in the pan after to make sure there’s no trace left in any corners etc.
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    The pan acid you buy at maple dealers at a premium price is the same as milk stone remover.
    Phosphoric acid as the main ingredient. I can almost guarantee it’s just Dairy milkstone remover relabeled as Maple Pan Acid.
    It works great. We bought a 5 gallon jug last year instead of doing the rotten sap pan cleaning. Filled the pans with permeate brought to a boil and mixed in the milkstone remover. Let it sit for a week and all the pans were the cleanest they have ever been since we bought them. We don’t use it during the season. Only at the end of season clean up. We then pressure wash it all out when done. So no residue.
    600 taps on vacuum
    Lapierre mechanical Releaser
    CDL electric releaser
    2.5 x 10 CDL Venturi ( new for the 2024 season )
    Home made modulating auto draw off
    Homemade RO 2 x 4" membranes
    CDL 16 x 16 bottler
    Wesfab 7" filter press
    Delaval 73 vacuum pumps

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    The pan acid you buy at maple dealers at a premium price is the same as milk stone remover.
    Phosphoric acid as the main ingredient. I can almost guarantee it’s just Dairy milkstone remover relabeled as Maple Pan Acid.
    It works great. We bought a 5 gallon jug last year instead of doing the rotten sap pan cleaning. Filled the pans with permeate brought to a boil and mixed in the milkstone remover. Let it sit for a week and all the pans were the cleanest they have ever been since we bought them. We don’t use it during the season. Only at the end of season clean up. We then pressure wash it all out when done. So no residue.
    600 taps on vacuum
    Lapierre mechanical Releaser
    CDL electric releaser
    2.5 x 10 CDL Venturi ( new for the 2024 season )
    Home made modulating auto draw off
    Homemade RO 2 x 4" membranes
    CDL 16 x 16 bottler
    Wesfab 7" filter press
    Delaval 73 vacuum pumps

    12 hives of bees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce L View Post
    Good morning Galena,have used it many many times. I always boil water in the pan after to make sure there’s no trace left in any corners etc.
    Thanks Bruce, Yeah that was my main concern, even though the corners of my pans are rounded. BTW you still have yet to taste all my award-winning syrup!


    Bricklayer, yeah I guessed that anything CDL sells is just rebranded Parlour Brite. Do you get yours from the Co-op in Spencerville? Down near the HH? Do they sell it only in 5g containers?
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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