How much syrup to give land owner

[David Wayne]

What is customary? This was a poor year for us and we made 17 gallons. Tapped a new place this year and looking forward to long term with this neighbor. Probably got 15 gallons from his trees, so what should I give him.

Thanks,
David

[jrgagne99]

I tap 150 trees spread out across 4 land owners. I give out about 2.5 gallons total in quarts, proportioned according to tap count on each parcel. Happy landowners are critical. I make 40-50 gallons a year, except this year. Not sugaring due to ruptured Achillies...

[antelope76]

I have 50 buckets on a landowner who also helps me collect all 100-110 of my buckets throughout the season. He also stops up to help boil occasionally. I give him 2 gallons every year.

[Trends]

You could figure out the value of the sap you tapped from their trees and give him that value in syrup.
You said you estimated 15 gal of syrup from his wood lot so assuming 44:1 ratio that would be 660gal of sap at say $0.14 gal (I reminder seeing sap values based on sugar % in the Maple Trader a few months back. you should be able to find on this website. $0.14 is just a # I pulled out of the air) so in the area of $90 worth of syrup.
What ever you give him I would think you would want a way to justify your decision if they have a hurt look on there face.

My thoughts only.

[DRoseum]

Another method is cost of leased taps. I have no idea market price for that on a small scale. Thought I saw $1 or $1.50 at some point. So if you had 50 taps, then give them $50 worth of syrup.

[johnallin]

What is customary? This was a poor year for us and we made 17 gallons. Tapped a new place this year and looking forward to long term with this neighbor. Probably got 15 gallons from his trees, so what should I give him.

Thanks,
David

15 Gallons of sap or 15 gallons of syrup?
If it's 15 gal Syrup: I'd offer him at least a couple gallons, best keep him happy, that's 88% of your total.
On the other hand; 15 gallons of sap is whole different story and not even a 1/2 gallon of syrup...

[David Wayne]

Thanks for the replies, its 15 gallons of syrup, don't want to base it on #of taps because this year we were only getting 30 to 40 gallons every couple days on 120
taps. Based on past years it should have been 200 a day. We just never got good weather this year. Anyway I pulled taps today its not going to freeze for the next 5 days. gave owner 4 quarts and they were very happy, "said thats too much".
Thanks again
David

[TapTapTap]

It should be worth $1 a tap, or more, if you leased a sugarbush. Therefore, one way to consider it is to provide the equivalent of $1 for each tap at the retail price for syrup. 50 taps should be about 1 gallon of syrup.

Ken

[johnallin]

Thanks for the replies, its 15 gallons of syrup, don't want to base it on #of taps because this year we were only getting 30 to 40 gallons every couple days on 120
taps. Based on past years it should have been 200 a day. We just never got good weather this year. Anyway I pulled taps today its not going to freeze for the next 5 days. gave owner 4 quarts and they were very happy, "said thats too much".
Thanks again
David

That's good and everyone is happy...2+2 = 6

[maple flats]

The last year I tapped leased trees I paid $1.00 per tap and paid it in either cash or syrup, their choice. If they chose syrup I gave them quarts, but at the half gal price rate, thus 2 qts @ half gal rate, but it qt jugs. I never had help from the land owner, just friendly conversations.
Those prices are for central NY state, if in high competition for sap areas, the price is considerably higher.
It's tough to do well on a half pint, even if it's the half pint supreme. Most rates are on larger evaporators and operations who have an RO too.