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    Boy awful quiet in here! Well after 5 nights with no freeze. The sugar gods smiled. Gpt @ 2% sap. 229 buckets. Saw the hardest run of the season so far. Ran into the dark. Hard freeze last night hope for another good run. And the 10 day forecast looks pretty awesome! Love me a good Roller coaster ride! Sugar on!

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    Nice run over the last 24 hours here in Georgia, VT -- just over 1 gpt in the buckets, sugar holding nicely at 2%.

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    Wicked run here today. Flowing at 720 gallons per hour at 730pm.
    Remember to keep on ticking while the sap is dripping.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons.
    2022- 3750 taps + Smartrek! Made 1300 gallons.
    2023- 3750 taps after removing a pump house and connected two woods. Made 800 gallons.
    2024- 3750 taps 1384 made.

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    had one heck of a run overnight last night. my 400 taps filled my first 350 gal tank from 4p.m till 530 this a.m.. it's now 33-34 degrees at my house and it's coming in as strong as it was last night when it was 40. something about the abrupt change in the weather must have something to do with it??
    Awfully thankful for an understanding wife!

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    Good luck to all!

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    Last week it took temps around 60 to get anything out of the trees, but that warm up got rid of most of the snow and started thawing the ground. After that, we are getting good runs in the 30's and 40's and the best run yet yesterday through the night...

    This graph is for one tap, for the last week, in NEK VT.


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    Hey folks, just curious if people have been keeping tabs on SapJack, formally known as The Maple Guild up an island pond. I was wondering how long it would take to break that promise of not flooding the market with regular syrup and sticking to infusions/blends. I didn’t think of it being as simple as changing the name.
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    Mismatched Grimm Lighting(Vermont) 2x4 raised flue/ Small Brothers(Quebec) 3x3 syrup pan on modified oil tank arch.

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    Pretty amazing couple of days. Runs approaching 2gpt on wensday, my 2700 tap bush was running about 650-700 gph assuming my CDL 4000 tap belly releaser is approx 8 gallons per dump and I think it may be closer to 9-10 gal. Sugar content went down as expected. Hoping for another 2 weeks! After today we should be around .32 gpt
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&M Maple Grove View Post
    Hey folks, just curious if people have been keeping tabs on SapJack, formally known as The Maple Guild up an island pond. I was wondering how long it would take to break that promise of not flooding the market with regular syrup and sticking to infusions/blends. I didn’t think of it being as simple as changing the name.
    Haha noone makes 300,000 gallons of syrup without flooding 'a' market. May not in my driveway but it takes a chunk. Haha you must watch the video when 'stuck in vt' went up and showed their operation.

    Pretty easy to see that these guys are nothing more than corporate liars! A bunch of implants from other states if you didn't catch that mass. Accent. Not my first rodeo dealing with, understanding, and interpreting others facades!!

    I'm sure they are great people but definitely like to keep the water murky, Shaw's and all other grocery stores selling their syrup on shelf so...... everyone has a funny way of justifying their actions.
    Last edited by blissville maples; 03-25-2022 at 06:29 AM.
    18x30 sugarshack
    5100 taps high vac
    3x10 inferno with steampan
    7'' wes fab filter press
    10'' cdl air filter press
    D&G 3 post reverse osmosis w/recirculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by blissville maples View Post
    Haha noone makes 300,000 gallons of syrup without flooding 'a' market.
    Highly doubtful they make 300k gallons. They have 1/2 million taps. I'd guess (without any real information) that they probably make 200k at most, and probably less. Still a lot of syrup, however the way the maple market has been going these past 10 yrs it was absorbed pretty well without depressing prices. The bulk price is basically dictated by Quebec and the currency exchange rate.

    The bigger issue this year is that we need a good crop in the U.S. and especially in Canada. The Federation strategic reserve is down 50%, and the syrup that remains is probably not the highest quality there is. Another low crop would mean a lot of that stuff entering the market, prices going up too high for the market to absorb, followed by dropping demand...which would lead to lower prices. We've seen it all before....don't need to see it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blissville maples View Post
    Haha noone makes 300,000 gallons of syrup without flooding 'a' market.
    maybe/ maybe not. The federation releases Taps in the millions, but because of higher consumption rates that does not seems to be flooding the market. I would tend to agree that the water is kept murky, but then again almost every sugar maker I talk with embellishes on facts.

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