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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    When this is done, it is best to offset the drops all in the same direction (downhill typically). That way you can always tighten the lines by pulling uphill and use the end ring fitting to snug things up. Easier to do that way than to tighten at the mainline entrance end, and it'll pull all the tees towards the tree rather than away.
    I think I follow the bit about tightening from the end hook but can you clarify what you mean about offsetting on the downhill side? My drops have sort of a U-loop from the tap to the line, I'm using 5/16 drops into 3/16 lateral line...is that ok or are you describing some other type of approach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_XJ View Post
    I think I follow the bit about tightening from the end hook but can you clarify what you mean about offsetting on the downhill side? My drops have sort of a U-loop from the tap to the line, I'm using 5/16 drops into 3/16 lateral line...is that ok or are you describing some other type of approach?
    He's saying that the location along the lateral line where you make the cut to insert your T fitting will all be on the same side, downhill of the tree. So, not quite right at the tree, but maybe 6-12" downhill from it. This still gives good access to the whole tapping band, but keeps the dropline a little further from squirrel activity. And if you want to tighten the lateral at a different time, they will continue to all line up with the trees if they all are consistently on the same side, rather than spacing some a foot uphill and some a foot downhill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motowbrowne View Post
    He's saying that the location along the lateral line where you make the cut to insert your T fitting will all be on the same side, downhill of the tree. So, not quite right at the tree, but maybe 6-12" downhill from it. This still gives good access to the whole tapping band, but keeps the dropline a little further from squirrel activity. And if you want to tighten the lateral at a different time, they will continue to all line up with the trees if they all are consistently on the same side, rather than spacing some a foot uphill and some a foot downhill.
    Yes, that's exactly it. Thank you for expanding nicely upon my explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Yes, that's exactly it. Thank you for expanding nicely upon my explanation.
    My pleasure. Glad you didn't mind. I know it takes time putting out great information for us amateurs, so if I can help share even a tiny bit of the load, it's an honor. I've said it before, but having you around is an incredible resource and I'm sure we all want to see you stick around as long as possible!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by motowbrowne View Post
    ...I'm sure we all want to see you stick around as long as possible!!
    Thank you, but June 30, 2023 is my firm launch date, although with my accrued vacation it'll functionally be closer to the end of March 2023. That means this is probably my final season of field research (not enough time to collect the data next season, analyze it and write it up before I go and plenty of other things to write up in my final year). The date is unlikely to change. Got a young grandson and another grandchild on the way...they're only little for a short time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Thank you, but June 30, 2023 is my firm launch date, although with my accrued vacation it'll functionally be closer to the end of March 2023. That means this is probably my final season of field research (not enough time to collect the data next season, analyze it and write it up before I go and plenty of other things to write up in my final year). The date is unlikely to change. Got a young grandson and another grandchild on the way...they're only little for a short time.
    Well, that's all great news Tim. But, uh... does it mean you're gonna say goodbye to the trader?? I'm crossing my fingers we will still see you around here.
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    I mean, maybe if a couple bottles of Bombay sapphire showed up every year courtesy of some traders that would help persuade you. You know, now that you'll be off the clock...
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