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    Default Pump for DIY Electric Releaser

    I am building an electric releaser and don't know what size pump I need to pump the sap out under vacuum.
    I have a 1/3 HP submersible sump but that won't overcome the vacuum and minimal head of 4 feet. Without vacuum on the releaser the pump works fine.
    Any Help is greatly appreciated.


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    Are you using a high head submersible well pump?
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    No, I have a standard sump pump.

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    I'm not surprised that it doesn't have the capacity to overtake the vacuum. My 1/2 hp extractor pump is rated for 175 feet of head.
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    You will need a pump capable of ~33 feet of head to overcome high vacuum plus the 4 feet you are pumping up. Most sump pumps are designed to pump out of an 8 foot basement and on the ground so likely 15 or 20 feet of head max. A deep well pump is what most people use or something that will produce more than 40 or 50 feet of head to be safe. Quality pumps will give you a rating and pump curve to follow.
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    Ken,
    Do you have a make and model on the pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    You will need a pump capable of ~33 feet of head to overcome high vacuum plus the 4 feet you are pumping up. Most sump pumps are designed to pump out of an 8 foot basement and on the ground so likely 15 or 20 feet of head max. A deep well pump is what most people use or something that will produce more than 40 or 50 feet of head to be safe. Quality pumps will give you a rating and pump curve to follow.
    Thanks Shaun.

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    When I was building my extractor I found this site to have a lot of useful information. https://www.aquascience.net/products...mersible-pumps
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