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    OK, You guys have helped sober me up. My goal was just to not dump any more sap with the limited time I have to boil so I think what I am going to do is just scale my project back a little and build and arch for the 3X6 Drop Flue pan. I will still need to batch but I will get great rate of evaporation so a night of boiling should produce double the results or more of my old set up and still have enough sap to run the thing for a few hours at a time. I cant wait to have 300 gallons of sap just to fire this thing up, I need to be able to deal when the tank has just 100 gallons in it as well.
    Building an arch for a drop flue pan that will sit directly over 24" of fire box may cause an issue because I do not want to damage the Flues when loading wood.Evap idea.jpg

    Will the fire box be to low in this scenario?

    Thank you all for your help.
    2012 4 taps and a bunch of propane
    2013 12 taps and a new home made 1x2 flat pan fit to an old wood stove, more propane
    2014 40 on tube flowing down hill to a 1x2 and 3 steam pans on emergency arch. (Drowning in sap)
    2015. New 2x5 flat pan and much better arch. 1x2 on new rocket stove ( this thing cranks, can't wait to use it) 60 on tubing into 250 gal tank. 6 on buckets just for comparison and a little extra!
    2016. Not a good year with the mild weather winter.

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    Your 36 x 48 syrup pan is meant to be above the fire and the flue pan begins at the top of the ramp. So your basic drawing is a good start you just need to stretch the arch out more and slope the ramp beginning at about 2/3's the way up the fire box backside. You will need to remember that insulation and fire brick or vermiculite will be needed to fill in the space to within about 1/2 inch of the bottom of the flues. I may be incorrect on this measurement. Dave will probably be able to give us a better answer.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    I am back! LOL! First lets just say that you guys / Gals are fantastic to share your knowledge. I will post some pics of the new arch. It is coming along nicely.
    New question is will my 8" stack be ok with this new 3 X 6 arch or do I need to increase the size? Looking for a new roof flashing and want to get what I need and not just fit what I have.

    Thank you!
    2012 4 taps and a bunch of propane
    2013 12 taps and a new home made 1x2 flat pan fit to an old wood stove, more propane
    2014 40 on tube flowing down hill to a 1x2 and 3 steam pans on emergency arch. (Drowning in sap)
    2015. New 2x5 flat pan and much better arch. 1x2 on new rocket stove ( this thing cranks, can't wait to use it) 60 on tubing into 250 gal tank. 6 on buckets just for comparison and a little extra!
    2016. Not a good year with the mild weather winter.

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    8" should be fine.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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