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    Default Failing fittings

    Hey all,

    This year I have had way too many Leader union fittings fail. The T fittings are fine. After a night freeze, I have to almost every morning replace one blown apart union fitting connection. Normal amount of tension on the tubing. All 3/16 tubing What gives?
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Are there 1 or 2 barbs on the fittings?
    Last edited by Ultimatetreehugger; 02-17-2020 at 08:10 PM.
    Remember to keep on ticking while the sap is dripping.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons.
    2022- 3750 taps + Smartrek! Made 1300 gallons.
    2023- 3750 taps after removing a pump house and connected two woods. Made 800 gallons.
    2024- 3750 taps 1384 made.

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    You mean straight connectors? Never have been a fan of leader tubing, try CDL or d And g. Go with semi rigid not the rigid. Also leader connectors are all garbage, get yourself some maxflow fitting from CDL.
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    Sounds like a problem all right, I would call them and ask some questions. Might be interesting answers??? We will be waiting to hear what they say too.
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    Chris
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    I second the cdl tubing and fittings. Never had a problem with any of them. That's all I use. Tried leader the first year and had several issues.
    Jake
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    I had problems with leader 3/16 fittings also. I think it is because they only have 1 barb on them. I switched to CDL and have had no problems since.
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    Leader does make a double barbed fitting. Cdl's is still better but it's way better than the single barbed. Leaders double barbed is cheaper than Cdl's as well.
    Remember to keep on ticking while the sap is dripping.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons.
    2022- 3750 taps + Smartrek! Made 1300 gallons.
    2023- 3750 taps after removing a pump house and connected two woods. Made 800 gallons.
    2024- 3750 taps 1384 made.

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    The T's will fail also, it's just a matter of time. I had one T come apart the other night after a single digit night. It's gotten to the point anytime after a real cold night like that I better go check because I know something came apart somewhere. I will not be using Leader fittings the next time.....
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
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    I've used semi-rigid tubing with CDL fittings on 3/16" and not had any issues in the past 4-years.
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    i don't use 3/16 tubing or fitting... all 5/16 but mostly all my fittings are leader (double barb) and i haven't had any issues with it. most of it is 6-8 years old...
    Awfully thankful for an understanding wife!

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    Good luck to all!

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