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    Default Smoky Lake auto draw

    Looking at buying a Smoky Lake Crescendo auto draw. Looking for feedback on the item and whether you would recommend it or not. Thanks
    Dominion and grimm 3 x 8
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    Two brothers and a best friend
    2015- setting up operations
    2016- 680 taps on 3/16
    215 buckets
    2017- 1280 taps on 3/16
    2018- 2000 taps on 3/16

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    I don't have their Crescendo auto draw, but I really like their basic auto draw. I just have a ball valve ahead of the auto draw and regulate the flow that way. It was quite easy to regulate the flow. That being said, I'll bet the crescendo is a real step up.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I bought a Great Lakes Guardian Auto Draw-Off System last season and ran 800 gallons through it .. I had 1 time that the valve wouldn't open turned out to be gummed up .. I soaked it in hot water for a few minutes and it worked again..now I clean it about every barrel to be safe .. I really like the stack temp option with the wood fired arch . I fill fire box based on that which keeps my rig going at full potential I feel..
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    If you don't have a draw off now then you will really appreciate one when things get to rolling and the syrup starts coming off.
    I have a Marcland and really like it. Bottom line is once you have a auto draw off you wont go back to manual draw off! I am sure Smokey Lake and the other big equipment folks will be able to supply you with quotes so you can shop. Good luck!
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    Well they are currently out of the simplicity model and Kettering the crescendo for a highly discounted price so I figure why not. We don't currently have an auto draw and know it would be a great upgrade for a more affordable price compared to the big company models.
    Dominion and grimm 3 x 8
    MemPROtec 600SS
    24'x32' sugar house
    Two brothers and a best friend
    2015- setting up operations
    2016- 680 taps on 3/16
    215 buckets
    2017- 1280 taps on 3/16
    2018- 2000 taps on 3/16

    Dealer for DSD Stars and MemProTec R.O.s

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    We lust purchased the crescendo, havent made a draw with it yet, but i can tell you its a well made piece of equipment, and it comes with plenty of wire for the valve and probe20161202_201259.jpg20161202_201224.jpg
    A&A 2x8 raised flue with hoods and preheater, converted to oil with carlin 201 for 2021
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    I have one and it works great. First gen valves had poor capacitors in them and have since all been upgraded to a new and much sturdy one. I did have a switch break internally which I need to get replaced but I like it a lot.
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    Looks like a good unit, did you buy the valve assembly along with it? Seems a bit cumbersome on your unit.
    Dominion and grimm 3 x 8
    MemPROtec 600SS
    24'x32' sugar house
    Two brothers and a best friend
    2015- setting up operations
    2016- 680 taps on 3/16
    215 buckets
    2017- 1280 taps on 3/16
    2018- 2000 taps on 3/16

    Dealer for DSD Stars and MemProTec R.O.s

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    I built the valve unit, my evaporator is only a 2x8, and i dont like any extra weight hanging if it doesn't need to be, hence the chains, switching sides is a breeze, i have all thw wires centered, just undo the unoin and take the whole assembly to the chain on the other side
    A&A 2x8 raised flue with hoods and preheater, converted to oil with carlin 201 for 2021
    8x12 kitchen
    8x12 canning room
    H20 7.5 1200 Econox for 2018 added 2nd membrane for 2020
    H2O 10" filter press half bank
    H2O 2430 gallon storage tank
    700+ 5/16 on vacuum, 1000+ on 3/16

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    I understand, I have an older arch so it's only one sided so what I fix to it can be somewhat more permanent. I think km going to go ahead and pull the trigger
    Dominion and grimm 3 x 8
    MemPROtec 600SS
    24'x32' sugar house
    Two brothers and a best friend
    2015- setting up operations
    2016- 680 taps on 3/16
    215 buckets
    2017- 1280 taps on 3/16
    2018- 2000 taps on 3/16

    Dealer for DSD Stars and MemProTec R.O.s

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