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  1. #21
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    I run a roofing company and can tell you guys a few tips to avoid ruining any of your roof decks. The best way to avoid condensation is to have the moisture hit the vapour barrier first. We just built a brand new sugar house this year, with a 6/12 roof pitch. And prior to installing the strapping I vapour barriered the top of the roof truss. It is a little more work but you can support the trust from moving by tacking a few straps to the underside of the roof trust first. Then as apply vapour barrier and the roof straps on 16" or 24" you can line up the trust and knock off the lower straps. I would strongly advised not to install plywood. Plywood doesn't like moisture. Roof boards are a better option. However installing any of these first and the vapour barrier after, will create a barrier on top of the wood. Keep in mind the vapour barrier is a preventive measure to stop moisture from penetrating the roof from the outside of the building. And unless the product has what is called a "PERM" factor higher than 1 it will trap moisture from the inside as well. 15"lb felt paper will not allow moisture to pass either way. In our roofing business we use a product called Titanium UDL 50, it a commercial grade vapour barrier. It can breath a little from the inside. Anyways in closing if you apply the vapour barrier on top of the wood, the wood will act like a sponge and suck up the moisture. If it is dripping it will rot in time. And will need replacing in the future. I will try to post a few picture of our building.

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    2019 Upgraded to 2.5x12 Lapierre Force 5 & 600 RO (850 Taps + 400 Buckets)+ Buying sap
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    2016 Added additional 75 Taps (800 total)
    2015 Tubing installed 700+ taps
    AirTech Vacuum Pump and CDL extractor
    20x36 Sugarhouse built (and still not big enough)
    250 CDL Hobby RO
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    2019 Upgraded to 2.5x12 Lapierre Force 5 & 600 RO (850 Taps + 400 Buckets)+ Buying sap
    2017 & 2018 Still Running about 815 taps
    2016 Added additional 75 Taps (800 total)
    2015 Tubing installed 700+ taps
    AirTech Vacuum Pump and CDL extractor
    20x36 Sugarhouse built (and still not big enough)
    250 CDL Hobby RO
    2014 2x8 Cross flow
    300 taps+
    450 Honda ATV
    2013 3x4 single pan
    50 taps
    40L Made last year off propane and one pan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clamer33 View Post
    The clear panels are a great idea. Nice work
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    Thanks, Clamer33. In the interior picture, it looks like you put a vapor barrier on the underside of the ceiling joists and used furring strips to hold it on. What's up with that?
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    2019 -- 44 Red Maples - My home and sugarbush are for sale.
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    2015 -- 15 Red Maples, 6 Birches - 3+ gallons maple syrup
    An awning over my deck is my sugar shack.
    An electrified kitchen sink and an electrified steam table pan are my evaporators.

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    We put 6 mil poly up to keep the heat in because we poured the concrete on Jan 20 of this year. I think that night went to -25C. Then I decided to install a cedar T&G ceiling, because I knew the moisture wouldn't effect the cedar like it would pine etc. Also all of our roof truss are 44" centers. So the strapping is 24" centers. Just help support the ceiling materials better.
    2019 Upgraded to 2.5x12 Lapierre Force 5 & 600 RO (850 Taps + 400 Buckets)+ Buying sap
    2017 & 2018 Still Running about 815 taps
    2016 Added additional 75 Taps (800 total)
    2015 Tubing installed 700+ taps
    AirTech Vacuum Pump and CDL extractor
    20x36 Sugarhouse built (and still not big enough)
    250 CDL Hobby RO
    2014 2x8 Cross flow
    300 taps+
    450 Honda ATV
    2013 3x4 single pan
    50 taps
    40L Made last year off propane and one pan

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