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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTBugtraq View Post
    You're measuring between 0 and 4%. there kinda huge margin of error in there.
    What are you referring to? You've lost me.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    So I made my first syrup today after boiling some 2500L. In a whiskey bottle, its very dark except at the neck, which is what I've gotten in past years. Still playing with the brix (my first 5+L was 69.2), but as tasty as its always been. Actually got to crack the tap on my arch and let it drip drip drip into the finishing pan, and after 6L it finished in like 2-3 mins on propane. Not expecting sap tomorrow but hoping for a good boil day.
    2017: added shut-off valves at several points on the main line, 66L made, 13L sold
    2016: Added Wesfab 7" Filter Press with hand pump, 96L sold
    2015: now 216 taps, added low vac (24" hg) to new Sugar Shack (24' x 16') w/400gal storage, 143.15L sold
    ​2014: now 150 taps, added 2 sump pumps to 12'x12' sugar shack w/100gal storage to CDL 18"x5', 2 chamber drop flue, 40L sold
    2013: 10 5/16 taps gravity to hose, boiled on BBQ

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    Four trees; total of 8 taps; in southwest Northumberland County.

    Mar. 12 - 3.8 L
    Mar. 14 - 40.7 L
    Mar. 15 - 7.5 L
    Mar. 16 - 25 L
    Mar. 17 - 9.5 L
    Mar. 20 - 26.5 L
    Mar. 21 - 39 L

    Total of approx. 150 L so far - first year.

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    Hi Folks! Thanks for all the nice comments about the video! I was pleased myself!

    Dave
    2011 35 taps
    2012 50 taps
    2013 80 taps maybe to 100
    2014 80 taps
    2015 New sugar shack, 50 taps on buckets and 100 on 3-16 gravity tubing.
    A tolerating wife and a 14 years old not so helper.
    2016 New evaporator and 150 taps all on 3/16 high vacuum gravity.

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    The 103 litres of sap I boiled down yesterday gave me 3L of lovely light syrup when I finished it off today. That's 34:1 instead of the miserable 70:1 that I had with my first batch. What a difference in boiling time!
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    Default Sap content of frozen sap

    Quote Originally Posted by NTBugtraq View Post
    You're measuring between 0 and 4%. There's kinda huge margin of error in there. Water with 2% sugar freezes pretty much the same as water with no sugar. Have you ever taken the ice and thawed it, and tested it?
    For years I'd always thrown out the ice out of habit / tradition. Last year I saved some ice / slush one morning after moderate freeze letting it thaw during the day. The thawed "sap" had a sugar content of ~0.2%. Out it goes.
    2x6 Phaneuf, Lapierre 125 Turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run Forest Run! View Post
    When you get ice forming in your buckets there is always less sugar in that ice than in what remains in your bucket. (I always check the sugar content in the melting ice with my refractometer to make sure I'm not dumping anything that is over 1.5 - 2%). If I get some slushy or crystally ice I usually end up dumping all of it, but it you get a hard freeze and the ice is a solid block then I let it melt down to about half or a third and use what melts off because more sugar is trapped in solid ice than in slushy ice.
    Quote Originally Posted by NTBugtraq View Post
    You're measuring between 0 and 4%. There's kinda huge margin of error in there. Water with 2% sugar freezes pretty much the same as water with no sugar. Have you ever taken the ice and thawed it, and tested it?
    Like I said, I always check the sugar content in the melting ice. There are lots of threads on here discussing the issue of sugar trapped in the frozen sap, including this current one http://mapletrader.com/community/sho...w-away-the-ice. Perhaps a quick search on this topic will explain things better than my attempt. Sorry I've obviously missed the mark on answering your question.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    Quote Originally Posted by 67HEAVEN View Post
    Four trees; total of 8 taps; in southwest Northumberland County.

    Mar. 12 - 3.8 L
    Mar. 14 - 40.7 L
    Mar. 15 - 7.5 L
    Mar. 16 - 25 L
    Mar. 17 - 9.5 L
    Mar. 20 - 26.5 L
    Mar. 21 - 39 L

    Total of approx. 150 L so far - first year.
    Wow, good work so far! BTW, you're more than welcome to visit and chime in on any regional forum here, I just thought this one would be most relevant for you in a geographic sense. Feel free to pop in on Eastern Ontario and share your stories and questions anytime :-)
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run Forest Run! View Post
    Like I said, I always check the sugar content in the melting ice. There are lots of threads on here discussing the issue of sugar trapped in the frozen sap, including this current one http://mapletrader.com/community/sho...w-away-the-ice. Perhaps a quick search on this topic will explain things better than my attempt. Sorry I've obviously missed the mark on answering your question.
    Karen, my apologies for the confusion. I couldn't see why sugar would separate from water while the sap froze (still don't understand how that happens, but I see that it does). I also didn't see where you said you tested the frozen sap. I have one bucket that collects from 8 trees and often contains a block of ice. I'm going to test that myself to see what my results are. My sap is averaging >3% atm.

    I finally got my arch firing on all cylinders, boiling 15 gals/hr now. Since I corrected the issue at noon yesterday, I've boiled 9 hrs and now have 4.1 gals of my typically dark amber 68-69 brix syrup. I really gotta learn how to add some sap to bring it down a tad (although I like it sweet). But I guess for the price I'm charging ($25/L) its better to be on the high side. At least now the pans are sweetened, so I should be getting 4 gals a day each day I can boil.
    2017: added shut-off valves at several points on the main line, 66L made, 13L sold
    2016: Added Wesfab 7" Filter Press with hand pump, 96L sold
    2015: now 216 taps, added low vac (24" hg) to new Sugar Shack (24' x 16') w/400gal storage, 143.15L sold
    ​2014: now 150 taps, added 2 sump pumps to 12'x12' sugar shack w/100gal storage to CDL 18"x5', 2 chamber drop flue, 40L sold
    2013: 10 5/16 taps gravity to hose, boiled on BBQ

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    Using the cold weather to finish my 2 weeks' worth of near up.

    Batch 1 from week 1 (Mar 8-14) yielded 3.25L of syrup (257L of sap, 1.09% sugar content)
    Batch 2 from last week yielded 9L of syrup (420L of sap, 1.84% sugar content)

    I sure hope sugar content goes up before it starts its march downward.

    Need to figure out a way to get the syrup through my filters though. Had a rough time getting the last 2.5-3L through. I ended up having to re-heat the filtered stuff to bottle.
    Last edited by MustardSeedMum; 03-23-2015 at 01:27 PM.
    Homeschooling mama to 8
    2010-30 taps, steam pans on a fisher grandma bear woodstove outdoors. Bottled 18.5L
    2012- 70 taps - 20L
    2013 - 70 taps, 3 steam pans on concrete block arch. 50L
    2015- 70 taps, 50.5L, 3.3lbs accidental sugar
    2021 - 120 taps, new-to-me 2x5 flat pan with a cast iron arch atop a brick firebox.

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