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  1. #691
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    ok picked up new Vac pump from MES, Clayton was awesome. He even called one of his customers that bought same unit last year the guy said he went six weeks 24/7 his electric bill was 300 approx. better than 279.52 for 4 weeks of a flogging by a unnamed electrical company saying we are commercial but everybody else says we are AG. Clayton was 1000 less than another company for same type of pump with a moisture trap included. No VFD on this pump Clayton said this pump doesnt need one, he explained it to me it made sense. This pump has a 1.2 HP motor at 5.2A the old milker was 9A 1HP.
    All plumbed and already on went right to 28+(with all the valves closed) hahah lines will be up and running today.

    Ryan, Going to upgrade motor that will take a VFD and have Breezy do his magic on the 75 so we can get more vac out of it move that unit up to quarry hole with a VFD on a generator.

    Clayton Ro's are very impressive, like an old saying we had when street racing, if it dont go chrome it, well Claytons units arent "chromed"

    big bush all tapped out turning pump on this today
    Last edited by Flat Lander Sugaring; 03-07-2015 at 07:58 AM.
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    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    IMG_20150306_175931_427.jpg
    not the best picture light in back ground to much. no water to mess with no oil reclaimer
    Business Name
    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    Hey Flat Lander how high of vacuum do you get with that pump? How many CFMs? I hope you have a great season.

    Spud

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    Set vac pumps this morning and electric releasers. The started tapping. Got -300 in today. Probably could of had more but cut in new drops and slow going threw the snow. Hope for another 400 tapped tomorrow then that lot will be done. My father got the RO wire this morning. And cousin got it plumbed. I love it, big family affair lol.
    Not if Mother Nature will cooperate like the rest of use we will be in good shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spud View Post
    Hey Flat Lander how high of vacuum do you get with that pump? How many CFMs? I hope you have a great season.

    Spud
    re plumbed unit turned it on and at releaser went to 27.5/28. 1000' up in woods 26.5 on one, 25, 24. now were going to start chasing leaks.
    17cfm unit good for 1000 taps were at 450/500 adding another 75 to 100 next few days.
    will post pics
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    all tapped in except for a a few that have a tree on them. head tank moved, arch together new valves on cage tank. putting ro together tomorrow and hooking up pellet stove. little welding.

    does any one have prints on a oil reclaimer home build?
    Business Name
    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    We made some head way on getting the vac. and the pump lines tie up a little more. I will have those finished tomorrow. I'll probably start tapping afterwards. We'll wire the pump and turn it on Tuesday. Then we prep. the R/O and evaporator. Game on this week.

    Mike
    Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.

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    Finished tapping all the pipelines yesterday. Plumbing in all the tanks this morning and getting the sugarhouse ready. Buckets will go out tomorrow.

    Here we go!
    300 on vaccum
    300 gravity tubing
    200 buckets

    100 hilltop acres
    16x20 timberframe sugarhouse built in 2010
    3x10 Leader max flue & revolution pans w/ Inferno arch - 2013
    1998 Kubota M5400

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    Turning both pumps on today preparing for tomorrow. I had the pumps on the other day just to check for leaks. I am not running super high vacuum yet but it will have to do for now. I am tired of hiking through 30 inches of snow looking for leaks. Based on the 10 day forecast we are going to have several days in the 40s and that should melt a bunch of snow making it easier to get around the woods. At that time I will chase down more leaks. It is snowing hard at my house this morning but the sun is supposed to come out by 1:00pm.

    Spud

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    Pump is on at 26.5". Still have about 200 taps to put in but it is supposed to hit 40 here with some sun this afternoon so I figure I will run the pump while I am off at my other job and see what I get. Could be a decent week!
    About 750 taps on High Vac.
    2.5 x 8 Intens-O-Fire
    Airtech 3 hp LR Pump
    Springtech Elite 500 RO
    14 x 24 Timber Frame SugarHouse
    16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
    www.littlehogbackfarm.com

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    Bright sun and 34 degrees should loosen things up a bit. The wind is out of the NW though so I doubt there'll be much of a run. Nice little stretch of weather coming up though if it gets cold enough tuesday night.
    173 on 3/16 natural vac for 2023
    36 buckets
    2 x 5 Smoky Lake Hybrid pan on a custom arch
    RB25 from RO Bucket
    12x24 salvaged sugarhouse built by wife's grandpa
    1965 Massey Ferguson 165 tractor to haul sap.

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