Does the loss of sap or damage from tapping impact long term health of trees more?

[PerryW]

....and speaking of trashing.....if thats your ad, then you are inferring that oil, vacuum, and ROs produce an inferior quality product. Thats a pile and you know it. Market your own product in a positive light instead of trashing the rest of us!

At the risk of starting another battle...... I have heard the RO can give you lighter grade syrup but with a stronger than normal flavor. One of the large producers in my area used to say this before he got his RO.

Again. I did not read the whole thread, but we has sugarmakers have to be prepared to answer one of the most common consumer questions, "Does vacuum hurt the trees?"

It's very hard to argue logically that extracting a significantly higher volume of sap does not (at least slightly) hurt the tree. My answer to this, when asked, is the the vacuum producers use smaller taps, use less taps and manage their sugarbush to compensate.

I plan on doing all of this when I add vacuum probably next season.

[spud]

This is such a stupid thread I can't believe it's still going. Heres my take on the whole thing. I don't think vacuum hurts a tree at all but if it does I really don't care. I run 28 lbs in the woods and will keep doing this until all the trees are dead. I only have about 20 more years of sugaring before I will be to old to do it anymore. All I want is for my trees to give me 20 more years and I will be a happy camper. There is no difference in taste between oil fired and wood fired syrup. I have taking the test and could not tell them apart. I have also tasted RO syrup at 20% and 2% and I cannot tell them apart. I buy eggs from caged birds and they taste as good as the cage less chicken eggs. I don't care if they put 50 birds in a small cage just give me my omelet please. I injected Posi-Lack in dairy cows for years and there is no difference in the milk flavor. Just give me my milk shake please. I think to many people make a big deal out of the non important things in life. Don't even get me going on the organic nonsense. What a money making scam that is.

Spud

[sirsapsalot]

This site is going to change names soon..... THE NEW MAPLE BASHER ......wow tough crowd around here. Kinda depressing what has happened to this place, unless your a BASHER.

[wilfredjr]

I take it back. Everyone's heart isn't in the right place. I must take what comfort I can from the doctrine of Limbo.

[jmayerl]

This is such a stupid thread I can't believe it's still going. Heres my take on the whole thing. I don't think vacuum hurts a tree at all but if it does I really don't care. I run 28 lbs in the woods and will keep doing this until all the trees are dead. I only have about 20 more years of sugaring before I will be to old to do it anymore. All I want is for my trees to give me 20 more years and I will be a happy camper. There is no difference in taste between oil fired and wood fired syrup. I have taking the test and could not tell them apart. I have also tasted RO syrup at 20% and 2% and I cannot tell them apart. I buy eggs from caged birds and they taste as good as the cage less chicken eggs. I don't care if they put 50 birds in a small cage just give me my omelet please. I injected Posi-Lack in dairy cows for years and there is no difference in the milk flavor. Just give me my milk shake please. I think to many people make a big deal out of the non important things in life. Don't even get me going on the organic nonsense. What a money making scam that is.

Spud

I find I couldn't agree with you more!

[RustyBuckets]

Yeah so lets revive it then.