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  1. #81
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    Amber- Bob boils his own syrup,,I have set up 2 other orchards for him,,Last year he made 1/2 gal-tap on the 2 smaller orchards I set up with him,,he made about 20 gallons off the "Big bush" we just finished..last year there were 600+ taps there...I think he will be around 1000 there this year...in 5 years there should be around 1400 tappabel...lots of maples growing in to tappabel size...He will have a very hard time keeping up with the sap, I believe...
    Salisbury Sugarworks,,Parker Rowe, and friends
    Salisbury, N.H.
    1988 taps in 09
    over 2500 on vac in 2010
    no buckets in 2010
    2815 taps in 2011
    shooting for 3000 in 2012
    4000 taps? In 2014
    5x16 wood fired "Mighty Marvin"
    50 cords in the shed
    Old, old R.O.
    Charter member Andover/Salisbury Mapleholics
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    [QUOTE=Parker;122335]Well...finally got Bobs instalation finished,,9800' mainline and wire,3200' from the tank to the last tap,19 lateral mainlines,,over 270 hose clamps,,,

    I was just thinking today as I was hose clamping a mainline connecter - how many hose clamps do we all have in our woods/sugar houses? Ridiculous! I should probably be buying them in gross, rather than bags of 10 from HD for $6.00
    Danno
    Just West of Syracuse
    3 x 10 Lightning
    Sihi Vacuum
    Sap Bros RO
    600 taps and buying sap

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    We had a busy weekend, Dave Y delivered our new RO Saturday morning, we got our sap and permeate tanks set on the bank behind the sugar house, did some more work in the bottling room / RO room. Started figuring out how we wanted to plumb in the RO, I think it might be easier to build a startrek warpdrive than figure this plumbing out! Still tons of work to do inside and out, and sap weather is coming soon!
    Andy's Own Maple
    Andy Kinter (4th + generation maple producer)
    Approx 790 taps on vacuum

    3x10 nat. gas fired raised flue small bros.
    600 gph Lapierre RO
    Fine collection of used bulk tanks
    Kubota MX5100 sap hauler
    2 hives (that I don't spend enough time on)
    A great family that works together to make syrup!

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    Andy; Did your RO come with the 4 valve control system mine did ?If not when I get home this evening I'll send you some pic's of the set up my lapierre came with . May help with the plumbing.
    Jim
    Maple consultant for 50 years

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    Andy- Looks like I have the same unit as you this will be my first year with it. Best advice, just start plumbing. I put it off for months also but once I started it all makes sense and really isnt that bad. I did go with the valve panel after much thought hopefully to idiot proof it when I get home after work. Jims pictures are great take him up on the offer it you have any questions.

    Mike
    CDL 2x8
    Around 4000 taps
    Polaris ATVs, Ski Doo snowmobiles to get around
    Atlas Copco pumps
    Lapierre two post RO




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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    I was just thinking today as I was hose clamping a mainline connecter - how many hose clamps do we all have in our woods/sugar houses? Ridiculous! I should probably be buying them in gross, rather than bags of 10 from HD for $6.00
    I've converted over to using Oetiker Clamps. They're much cheaper, quicker to install, and they're cheaper.

    http://www.oetiker.com/content.asp?l=4&idNavig=26

    Lowe's sells them for <$2 per bag of $10. There's a local landscape supply which sells bags of 100 for ~$12.
    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
    2010 - 377 on vac.
    2011 - 590 on vac.
    2012 - 620 on high vac., 170 buckets, 110 on gravity tubing
    2013 - 830 mine + 800-1000 others
    2014 - 870 mine + 800-1000 others
    2017 - 920 mine + 500-700 others
    2018 - 902 mine + 500-700 others
    2019 - 902 mine + 700 others
    2020 - 902 mine + ???? others
    Atlas Copco Pump
    2.5'x8' 802maple Special with Dallaire pans
    H2O Innovation 600gph RO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Brown View Post
    Andy; Did your RO come with the 4 valve control system mine did ?If not when I get home this evening I'll send you some pic's of the set up my lapierre came with . May help with the plumbing.
    Jim
    I got the three way panel to help deal with the output, but not for input. I know how to hook everything up, just a bear to diagram it all out. I'm making things more difficult by having wash drains for both the permeate and feed tanks plumbed into the system. I'm going to build my own panel for the inlet valves, instead of having stuff spread out on the wall like some do.
    Andy's Own Maple
    Andy Kinter (4th + generation maple producer)
    Approx 790 taps on vacuum

    3x10 nat. gas fired raised flue small bros.
    600 gph Lapierre RO
    Fine collection of used bulk tanks
    Kubota MX5100 sap hauler
    2 hives (that I don't spend enough time on)
    A great family that works together to make syrup!

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Andys...27718203945398
    http://photobucket.com/mapleack

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    Josh- tell me more about those clamps- how do they hold with vac? special tool to install?

    intriguing...
    Eric Johnson
    Tucker Mountain Maple Co-op
    1400 taps in 2013
    2.5 x 8 CDL pellet arch and Smokey Lake pans
    Lapierre 600 RO
    Member of Andover/Salisbury Maplehaulics anonymous
    www.tuckermtn.com
    pALS

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    Default Clamps

    These clamps have been used in irrigation for years.I used them last year on a 3000 tap bush.They are fast,cheap and clean looking.You use end nippers to tighten them.Two thumbs up from me.
    625 Taps on Vacuum
    2 1/2 x 8 Dallaire
    200 Mempro Tec RO
    Lapierre tanks and Filter press

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    so you slide the clamp on then pinch the ear on top to squeeze the pipe? do you have to cut them to take them off?
    Eric Johnson
    Tucker Mountain Maple Co-op
    1400 taps in 2013
    2.5 x 8 CDL pellet arch and Smokey Lake pans
    Lapierre 600 RO
    Member of Andover/Salisbury Maplehaulics anonymous
    www.tuckermtn.com
    pALS

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