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    Default Insurance on evaporator in outbuildings?

    We were supposed to lay the block today for the evaporator I was going to build in our pole barn. At the last minute, I thought to contact my insurance agent and he told me that State Farm will not insure any wood burning in any outbuilding or garage. I suppose it makes sense, even though most people are smart enough to keep gas and other flammables away from a wood burner (the reason his underwriters gave).
    Until last night, I had wrongly assumed that since they hardly asked any questions at all when they approved our recent woodburner in the house, that it would be no big deal in an outbuilding.

    So, needless to say, the evaporator is going to have to wait a year. Bummer. I guess I'll sit out in the elements again this year.

    Does anyone have any advice on how to proceed? I really wanted the evaporator in the pole barn because it could serve multiple purposes, and it would prevent me from having to build yet another outbuilding. If no good ideas come from this thread, I'll just build an un-insured cheap sugar shack over one. Thanks for your ideas about dealing with insurance. (BTW, I live in southern Indiana where they know nothing about sugaring.)

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    Put it in your pole barn anyway and be **** careful like the rest of us.
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    Yes, I figure there is about a .00000000001% chance that a fire would happen, but it WOULD happen to me if I took that chance. After being personally affected by three tornadoes, a major hailstorm, and a whole-house electrical fire, I can't take even a fraction of a chance.
    For most people, that would be fine, but for me..........

    I figure a "disposable" sugar shack made of salvaged utility poles and salvaged lumber around a nice concrete block/archboard/firebrick evaporator would be my best option. It's not my preference, but it's low-risk. I really hate the thought of building another building, but I'm addicted after my first sugaring season and want to do more than sit in the rain with an inefficient evaporator like I did last year.

    Thanks!

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    Try contacting Farm Family. We have a farm policy with them that insures our home and sugar house as well as giving us a $1,000,000 liability policy. We also have a rider for our evaporator. Not sure if they insure where you are but look into a farm policy....it costs about the same as a home owner policy and there are perks as well.

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    I checked and they don't have much, if any, presence in Indiana. State Farm has always been good to us, so it's looking like I might just throw an un-insured shed up over my evaporator. Didn't really need another project, but...............

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    I currently have State Farm but they will be gone next month. The reason they gave me that there will be no insuance on my pole barn/sugarhouse is because it was a business and would need a comercial policy. Good by State farm hello Farm Bureau. Now all my asssets are coverd with 1 solid fuel unit in the house and 2 in the barn (evaporator and a wood stove) for $500 more per year the new barn ($40,000) replacement cost,contents (maple equipment $15000) and all my antique farm equipment (I've got some rare pieces). You need to consider how much you can afford to lose without coverage. Our freinds lost their barn Sat nite 50 show type brood sows and 50 chickens. Only the structure was covered. No equipment ,stock,hay,feed, or tack coverage. Tens of thousands of dollars lost. Even our 4-H club's livestock scales are gone maybe $5 for melted alunuim ($1500) that the kids will need to work up for replacement. Think long and hard about working with no insuance.

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    I like the way you said State Farm has been good to you.................sounds like they fell a little short. In Denver we got hit by a big hail storm 1 1/2 years ago and every house in the area got new roofs ...............Except the houses insured by State Farm.

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    Maybe it is a difference in agents or regional reps. We've had complete replacement of all our belongings in 1991, replacement of a 45x65 barn due to a tornado, and more recently (2006) tens of thousands in replacement on hail-damaged vehicles and roofs.
    I will call Farm Bureau, however. Around here, they are the ones with the stingy reputation.
    Thanks...

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    Ahowes, Dave b is right, state farm insured us for 15 years then we started sugaring. they told us they wouldn`t insure the sugar house or the equipment. We went to the co-op insurance co. farm policy was the way to go.190.00 per month 3vehicles, house, sugar house and all the equipment plus 3,000,000.00 in product liability. check around
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    Maybe a dumb old INDEPENDENT agent from Northern New York can shed some light. First insurance is state to state. Having said that State Farm agents here are a one company agent. Therefore they can only offer there product. I represent 6 companies for property insurance and 5 will write sugar houses and wood fired evaporators. The rate is around $4.50 per thousand per year. btw In this area State Farm has been good to their insured's.

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