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  1. #181
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    After the boil, which went well, I collected 55 gallons of sap, the pails were still dripping and the lines still running. I will check the barrels again in the morning and may get an additional 10 to 20 gallons.

    Right now I have collected 43% of expected sap. I hope to get to 60%.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    We will see if I pulled all water out of the pails, or if there was some sap in the ice, when I make the syrup.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c4A...dLzw#McDougall
    I finished today’s boil tonight and bottled it and I guess it was just all water taken out, as I got 5 3/4 L out of the 42 gallons.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/069a...nz8I-gUJUut-pg

    Busy day.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Collected another 22 gallons before starting to boil this morning, so I am boiling 77 gallons today, which I will do in two batches in the one boil.

    I have now collected about 45% of expected sap.

    Looking at the long range forecast, there are not many collection days left. I would really like to get to 60% expected sap before it ends.

    The wind today is in the right direction so the smoke and steam are quickly leaving the shelter.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Default 4% concentrated sap

    Once before I had checked one pail and it was 3% sugar in the sap and I checked a second pail and it read 4% on my refractometer. I told my buddy and he said that was unlikely.

    Today again , I checked one pail and it was 3% and a second pail read 4%. I went back to the first pail and it read 3% again and I went back to the second pail and it read 4%.

    I know by how much syrup I make, I am doing better than 40:1, it 4% sugar possible straight out of a tree?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    All I can tell you is that if you really are averaging 3.5% then never mind 45% of your goals by sap. For most sugar makers you would be at 90% of your goals by syrup!

    I have to pick and choose which trees I tap, and even so, I average about 1.7-1.8%.

    Gabe
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL evaporator halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same Mason 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals (too much sap!)
    2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gall
    2025: 17 taps, 4-5 gall
    All on buckets

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    Are you running an electronic refractometer, or an optical unit?
    2019 - 60 buckets, 85L of syrup, 2x4 pan outside
    2020 - 100 buckets, 105L of syrup, 2x6 flat pan in a Redi Rack Shack
    2021 - 137 buckets, 110L of syrup and a homemade RO (why didn't I do this sooner?)
    2022 - 154 buckets, 201L of syrup
    2023 - 166 buckets, 343L of syrup, cold sap float box, walking beam sap trailer, 4Walls vacuum filter
    2024 - 177 buckets, 200L of syrup
    2025 - 177 buckets, 235L of syrup, 2x8 raised flue evaporator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willen View Post
    Are you running an electronic refractometer, or an optical unit?
    Optical.

    When I posted my syrup yield from the gallons I boiled, another poster said that would be 3.07% sugar concentration. I went out and check my sap and the refractometer said it was 3%. That is why I trust it to some degree. It said 4% both times I checked the same pail and correctly repeated the 3% for the other.

    I would not bet my friend’s truck that it is an accurate reading, I was just curious if it is possible or likely?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Optical.

    I would not bet my friend’s truck that it is an accurate reading, I was just curious if it is possible or likely?
    http://mapletrader.com/community/sho...-sugar-content
    Certainly is, this sap was straight out of the tree in 2020 in my post
    2019 - Barrel evaporator 2 steam pans 44 taps 13 Liters syrup
    2020 - Barrel evaporator 2 steam pans 51 taps 21 Liters syrup
    2021- New homemade 2x3 evaporator and flat pan 80 drop lines to buckets
    2022- (•,•)1350L naturally ROd sap 44L syrup
    2023- "\_(°•°)_/" 1100L sap 30L syrup not accurate due to natural RO
    2024 { ';' }1862L sap 52L syrup 52 drop lines to buckets

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    Yes. It's possible but rare. I have a sap hydrometer calibrated to 3c. I have one tree that produces 3.5 up to 4 early in the run. It's the only one I know of. Have 400+ taps all on lines and only 20 or so pails near the shack. My bulk containers averaged 2.1 early and now about 1.9 steady. Hard rock sugar maples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    I would not bet my friend’s truck that it is an accurate reading, I was just curious if it is possible or likely?
    Definitely possible. There are a number of people here who regularly report well over 2%. I have one tree that has put out 3.4% in the past.

    Just consider yourself a very lucky man, because there are a lot of things you can control/optimize in your operation, but you can't control what the trees put out.

    GO
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL evaporator halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same Mason 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals (too much sap!)
    2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gall
    2025: 17 taps, 4-5 gall
    All on buckets

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