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    No sap today, so I'm decanting my first two batches and bottling them properly for long term storage. Long term storage. hahaha Who am I kidding?
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    Attaboy Al, get em hooked early...;-) He looks so happy, glad things are going well!

    Still zilch-o at this end. Some frozen sap in the pails but leaving them there til this stoopid weather lets off. Thumb twiddling during sugaring season is awfully boring and frustrating.

    And sadly I think my hydrometer is busted - I was trying to scrape off what looked like a slight line of residue at the bottom where the dye/mercury/ballbearings etc are...and though I don't see anything leaking out, things look all kinda muddied together, so I'm afraid it's a hairline crack. Doubtless caused from all the torpedoing it did last year. So think I will take that as a hint and just chuck it out, don't plan to replace it :-/
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    So my first batch I boiled Friday night is starting to turn to sugar, took it a little to far in the boiling process, can I add it to the sap I collected yesterday so it mixes with that and doesn't all go to sugar? Not that I dont mind maple sugar, but I was hoping to give the finished stuff to the boys so they can give it to their foster family. Or the sap I am boiling right now I can always just give that to them and just let the syrup sugar do its thing and use it in my coffee
    2018 28 tree's, 32 taps... 1206 L collected, 19.6 L Finished
    2017 14 trees, 16 taps... for now 465.5 L collected, 10.5 L Finished
    2016 26 trees, 38 taps... for now 675 L sap so far, 10.5 L finished product
    2015 7 Trees, 7 Buckets
    2014 13 Trees,9 Buckets,5 Water Cooler Bottles,1 Turkey Fryer,ended up with 12 L syrup,light to very dark color
    2013 9 Trees ,13 taps and buckets,1 Turkey Deep Fryer,Close to 15 L of syrup , light to dark color

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrutemanAl View Post
    So my first batch I boiled Friday night is starting to turn to sugar, took it a little to far in the boiling process, can I add it to the sap I collected yesterday so it mixes with that and doesn't all go to sugar? Not that I dont mind maple sugar, but I was hoping to give the finished stuff to the boys so they can give it to their foster family. Or the sap I am boiling right now I can always just give that to them and just let the syrup sugar do its thing and use it in my coffee

    Al, go right ahead and decant that sugary syrup into some fresh sap and reboil! Adding fresh sap to fix an overcooked batch is perfectly normal, just like adding more water to a pan that's starting to boil dry when you're braising beef.

    And when there's no sap left and you have crystallizing syrup, you can use distilled water instead, with a clear conscience ;-) Bahahahaahaaaa....*sorry still on first coffee of the day*

    Actually Karen made a good point in another thread on sugar and syrup: ...If your syrup filtered nicely and is clear, don't reboil the syrup with sap or you'll create new niter and have to refilter. If you use distilled water to thin down your heavy syrup and heat everything up slowly to 190F (without having your syrup boil) then you can rebottle into clean jars.

    Have fun with the munchkins!

    ETA: Sorry if you've already posted the info about them, but how old are they? Are they brothers?
    Last edited by Galena; 03-29-2015 at 07:39 AM.
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    So the sun is shining, but we are -3. The forecast is calling for a high of 4. Sounds promising for later in the day, but that's when the gusting wind is supposed to start. Wonderful.

    . . . So. . . I've hauled all of my frozen sap storage containers into the house in hopes of thawing them out. Maybe I can boil them down to 'nearup' while the sun attempts to brighten the frigid landscape.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    LOL and like always, Karen, we're at opposite ends of the spectrum...I've collected nothing for the last two days, even though it was +4 and sunny, cause the 20km N wind killed any chance of a flow. But starting later today we're getting SW winds, and they're meant to be going all night and we finally have a half-decent forecast for the next week. About freakin time!!!
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    SNOW
    2018 28 tree's, 32 taps... 1206 L collected, 19.6 L Finished
    2017 14 trees, 16 taps... for now 465.5 L collected, 10.5 L Finished
    2016 26 trees, 38 taps... for now 675 L sap so far, 10.5 L finished product
    2015 7 Trees, 7 Buckets
    2014 13 Trees,9 Buckets,5 Water Cooler Bottles,1 Turkey Fryer,ended up with 12 L syrup,light to very dark color
    2013 9 Trees ,13 taps and buckets,1 Turkey Deep Fryer,Close to 15 L of syrup , light to dark color

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustardSeedMum View Post
    The other thing I'm struggling with is figuring out when to finish. Use my hydrotherm or my thermometer? I was boiling to 219/220 but my hydrotherm would say it's not quite ready. But I'm getting the sheeting and my finished product looks really thick going by my hydrotherm.
    MSM, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone suggest that perhaps your target number for the thermo hasn't been calculated properly. Every day you need to check the boiling point of water as near to where you are using the thermo as possible (e.g. beside where you're boiling the sap). Atmospheric pressure, caused by weather conditions, can change that normally 212F number into 210F or 214F. So find out today's number (I boil my thermo in a kettle, with fresh water every day), and then add 7.2F to it to get to minimum maple syrup brix point.

    Also, there temperature corrections that should be done with Hydrotherms if your syrup is not boiling when measured. Fill your hydrotherm cup with boiling syrup, wait a few seconds for the cup to warm, then dump and take fresh syrup...then measure.

    As Karen says, if it looks good, its probably good, but if you're thinking of selling any, you really should resolve the two measurements to your satisfaction so you know what you've ended up with.
    2017: added shut-off valves at several points on the main line, 66L made, 13L sold
    2016: Added Wesfab 7" Filter Press with hand pump, 96L sold
    2015: now 216 taps, added low vac (24" hg) to new Sugar Shack (24' x 16') w/400gal storage, 143.15L sold
    ​2014: now 150 taps, added 2 sump pumps to 12'x12' sugar shack w/100gal storage to CDL 18"x5', 2 chamber drop flue, 40L sold
    2013: 10 5/16 taps gravity to hose, boiled on BBQ

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    Actually with a hydrotherm there are no adjustments needed for temperature. The Hydrotherm includes a thermometer and is "temperature compensating" while syrup is hot but not boiling (i.e 50-100C).

    A hydrometer reading needs to be adjusted for temperature.

    The March 20th ONMapleSyrup report has a good writeup on the subject. https://onmaplesyrup.wordpress.com/2...2015/#more-427
    Big_Eddy
    Eastern Ontario (Quinte)
    20+ years on a 2x3 block arch,
    Homemade 20"x64" drop flue since 2011

    Build a Block Arch
    Build a Flat Pan
    Build a Flue Pan
    Sweetening the Pans
    Build a Bending Brake
    Using a Hydrotherm
    How much Sap to Sweeten?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTBugtraq View Post
    MSM, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone suggest that perhaps your target number for the thermo hasn't been calculated properly. Every day you need to check the boiling point of water as near to where you are using the thermo as possible (e.g. beside where you're boiling the sap). Atmospheric pressure, caused by weather conditions, can change that normally 212F number into 210F or 214F. So find out today's number (I boil my thermo in a kettle, with fresh water every day), and then add 7.2F to it to get to minimum maple syrup brix point.

    Also, there temperature corrections that should be done with Hydrotherms if your syrup is not boiling when measured. Fill your hydrotherm cup with boiling syrup, wait a few seconds for the cup to warm, then dump and take fresh syrup...then measure.

    As Karen says, if it looks good, its probably good, but if you're thinking of selling any, you really should resolve the two measurements to your satisfaction so you know what you've ended up with.
    Thanks NT. Yes, I know the water bp can change day to day. So I do take that into account. And yes, as BigEddy says, I've got the hydrotherm which adjusts for temperature. I'm so glad for it. 1 less thing to worry about at finishing. It is always a chaotic event in my kitchen - finishing syrup.
    Homeschooling mama to 8
    2010-30 taps, steam pans on a fisher grandma bear woodstove outdoors. Bottled 18.5L
    2012- 70 taps - 20L
    2013 - 70 taps, 3 steam pans on concrete block arch. 50L
    2015- 70 taps, 50.5L, 3.3lbs accidental sugar
    2021 - 120 taps, new-to-me 2x5 flat pan with a cast iron arch atop a brick firebox.

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