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    Default Whats your average evaporation rate?

    OK, I am not trying to start a peeing contest or anything like that but I was curious what people get for an evaporation rate?
    Basically what do you have for an evaporator, what heats it, do you use a pre-heater and whats the average evaporation rate you get on it? And I guess just for fun, whats the fastest you've ever had it going?

    I have a 2x4 wood fired evaporator on a brick arch with a 2x2 raised flu pan in the back and a 2x2 finishing pan in the front. I have a stainless 5 gallon box over the back dripping into the flu pan, but the saps still ice cold.
    On average I get about 15-18 gph, but managed to get it up to about 25 gph this last season when I got into some really dry pine.

    I guess I just want to know what I can look forward to if I go for a larger evaporator in a few years and realistically how much space will be needed once I get myself into vaccum.
    143 taps on a brand new 3/16th tubing setup.
    2'x6' W.F. Mason Drop Tube Evaporator
    12"x24" W.F. Mason finisher.

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    I got my old 2x4 up to 20ish with a blower and good wood.
    30x40 Sugarhouse
    975 taps here at home. Still have 3-400 to add in.
    3x10 Cabin by the Creek evap with "steamaway"
    CDL 600 RO
    ebayed Sogevac S65

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    3x10 raised flue small brothers with a 7 ft flue pan. When woodfired, under perfect condtions 95 to 100 gph. It's set up for natural gas now, and I guess I'll find out the gph in about a month!
    Andy's Own Maple
    Andy Kinter (4th + generation maple producer)
    Approx 790 taps on vacuum

    3x10 nat. gas fired raised flue small bros.
    600 gph Lapierre RO
    Fine collection of used bulk tanks
    Kubota MX5100 sap hauler
    2 hives (that I don't spend enough time on)
    A great family that works together to make syrup!

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    I have a 3x8 raised flue with a 3x6 flue pan, I like to run at 55-60 gph, can go to about 75 but I need to make a deflector similar to what Leader has on their 2x6WSE to keep the geysers contained in the front of the flue pan. Until then I'll stay at 55-60.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I have a 2x6 Phaneuf raised flue on a home made oil burning arch. I have a home made steam hood and pre-heater. I boil about 45-50gph.
    Matt

    2x6 Phaneuf raised flue pans
    homemade oil burning arch & hood
    homemade RO,auto draw-off, releaser,auto-canning valve, filter press, ext.....
    850 taps

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    I would say I average low to mid 20s. I have had it really low and really cooking to 28 - 30 but at this level I really gota be on my toes! ):

    I am thinking of selling it, anybody interested?


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    Last year 3 gallons a hour British. With improvements I am hopeing for a good 9 gallons a hour. I know that's hopeing for a lot but hopefully Rileys dropped tubes work the way I hope.
    maybe 50 taps for 2011
    Finally ready to boil when I get enough sap
    I just might be crazy.( make that I know I am)
    Trees all tapped except the ones with 5 feet of snow.
    Enough rabbits to keep Elmer busy..

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    Adding to what Dr Perkins said, I think some people inflate their gph #'s by saying what they can do on the best hour for a day or for the season. GPH #'s should include the time you light the match until the evaporator is completely shutdown. Not a lot of difference for oil fired but a lot of extra time for wood fired evaporator.

    I have a 2 x 8 with 5' drop flue pan and with the modified arch, I can get 60 to 65 gph including startup and shutdown.
    Brandon

    CDL dealer for All of West Virginia & Virginia
    3x10 CDL Deluxe oil fired
    Kubota M7040 4x4 Tractor w/ 1153 Loader hauling sap
    2,400+ taps on 3/16 CDL natural vacuum on 9 properties
    24x56 sugarhouse
    CDL 1,000 2 post RO


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    90-100 gph with a 3x10 (3x7 raised flue pan w/ 7" flues).

    Wood fired, no hood, no preheater, no blower but always nice dry wood.
    2012: Probably 750 gravity taps and 50 buckets.

    600 gal stainless milk tank.
    2 - 100 gallon stock tanks
    one 30 gal barrel
    50 buckets

    3' x 10' Waterloo Raised Flue wood fired evaporator w/ open pans.

    12" x 20" Filter Canner

    Sawmill next to sugarhouse solves my sugarwood problem

    Gather with GMC 3500 2wd Pickup w/ 425 gallon Plastic Tank.

    Been tapping here in Lyman NH since 1989 but I've been sugaring since 8 years old in 1968.

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    3x12, with 3x8 drop flue pan, hoods. Wood fired. Average around 100-110 gph.

    The real efficiency is matching this with an RO with a concentrate output to match the evaporation rate. My CDL 600 will average 450+ gallons per hour input, 100-110+ output. So my effective rate is 450 GPH.

    My RO is usually done about 2 hours before I am done evaporating, so
    I think if I add a preheater and up my evaporator capacity by 10%, I will save myself an hour a day. Maybe next year...
    Jeff Emerson
    www.emersonsmaplehill.com
    3x12 Leader with over air, custom piggyback, 600gph CDL RO
    2500 on 25" vacuum
    350 4 wheeler, 500 snowmobile, and 1950's Ford 600 tractor, Husqvarna! (261, 372xpBigBore, 562xp), Stihl MS193 for in tree work

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