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    Looking for ideas on how to cut a fill port on my plastic drums. I should clarify that I'm not asking what tool/saw to use to cut the hole, but in what fashion/orientation the port should be cut. I plan to strap the drums onto a trailer behind my tractor and haul them around in the woods. I initially thought I would just stand them on end and cut the tops out, but wondered if anyone had come up with a better way to go about it. Ideally I would like to have a sealable cover to prevent the sap from sloshing out as drive around and to keep rain from getting in as they'll be sitting outside. Any thoughts?
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    I would leave them intact and get a big funnel like you get from the big plastic suppliers that screw into drum bungs. make a suction tube that fits in the big port and suck clean. I would rinse out every other day. Soon you will replace with bigger sap hauler and will need the barrels for your bulk syrup
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    That is what I started with. I laid mine down and cut a very tight hole for a 5 gallon plastic pail. I drill 3/16" holes it the pail bottom. If the hole is good and tight the pail will not fall out. If you put the bung down you can buy a fitting( if its not pipe thread) to adapt to pipe thread and pipe several barrels together using Fernco couplers. I wish you were closer I would give you the ones that I have. I need the storage space.
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    The 1" quick couplers in the maple supply catologs will accept a piece of
    1/2" black tubing inside. By doing this you can pump a plastic barrel out.
    One year I hauled sap from 50 taps with two 55 gallon barrells in the back of a Dodge Caravan. My truck at that time was not road worthy even with AG plates on it. By using the 1/2" black pipe I could empty the barrlles out completly that were laid on the side in back of the van.
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    We used a similar method but it had it's problems. We used six steel barrels, on a trailer. we strapped them down with the open end up. This did create a huge amount of sloshing going over un-even terrain. We ended up putting a large piece of fabric/filter over all six tanks and using a bungie to hold it down, this limited the loss of sap to sloshing, and kept out some of the nasties. Also we had to bail out the sap with buckets, a pump or a drain would be a great addition. If you are in the market for a poly tank, you might check a local rental outlet, sometimes they replace their stock from time to time and they sell off their older items. That is where we hope to get our tanks this season.
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    I put a 5 gal pail on top and trace around it then cut the hole just a little larger , then just set the pail in the hole for transport and you get a good seal ---( no sloping out of the sap) and your gathering pail is there when you need it..

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    Exactly the kind of ideas I was looking for! Thanks everybody!
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    Mostly box elders with a scattering of red, silver, & sugar maples
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    i,de go with fred's idea.i,ve done that before and it works well.
    FRED:i might be intrested in taking those barrels off your hands..how many do you have??

    delbert

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    where do you guys get your plastic drums I need a couple?

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    I found a barrel it came with a tap that screws into the bung. I might use it sideways for transfer of sap or I might just screw a tap of somekind into the bottom but I am trying to figure out how to do that and have it hold tight enough to have the pressure of 50 gallons of water against it. I have another barrel the top comes off of it so I can put a tap in it and put a plastic fitting on the back of the tap to hold it secure . I might also try and turn the barrel sideways and use a 1 1/2 inch plug and a big funnel and make a cradle for it to hold it secure. Lot's of ideas a guy can use.
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