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  1. #21
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    i haven't been on in a while so i might be a little behind. this is how mine was set up. the plastic valve on top is where the vacuum hooks up the s/s fitting you plug off. there should be a glass nipple on the side of it with a little ball inside that shuts the vacuum off to the pipe line, there is also a small ball on the bottom that also opens when its ready to dump and shuts for vacuum. if you have a wash jar don't waste your time they will only work on about 20 taps i have 4 of them that i would give away.ask casey to send you a pic of his . i sold these to him last year or look @ my pics and you will get the idea.
    4x14 leader oil fired max revolution with preheater
    5800 taps all on vacuum
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    Here's the milk jar releasers i got from tree finder, there bigger than the bender washer ones and they work great, you can tell there differnt from the washer type
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    Nate, 17 years old

    300 buckets on a leader 2x4 flat pan in 07'
    1200 taps on gravity for 08'
    1900 taps in 09' 1650 on vac
    1700 taps on vac 50 buckets 10'
    Shooting for 2500 on vac in 11'
    3x10 Grimm Evaporator for 11'
    Stihl Ms390
    Stihl FarmBoss 028
    Stihl Ms170
    Stihl 009

    Website-www.caseyssugarhouse.com AND
    http://maplebs.caseyssugarhouse.com

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    Casey I see that the sap dumps out of the bottom hose, but is the side connection with the SS elbow where your sap comes in?

    That is quite a bit bigger that the Bender washer/receiver.
    1st Generation Hobby Maple Producer, you got to start somewhere.
    222 Taps, all on Vacuum! No more buckets.
    Lapierre 2'x5' raised flue w/Hood and Preheater
    Surge SP11, Lapierre Hobby Releaser
    Modified 5" Filter Press made by Daryl with a Gear Pump
    Homemade 2 membrane RO
    Kabota RTV Sap Hauler

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    yes with the s/s fitting is where the sa comes in witha flapper check vavle, on the washer your going to need two check vavles one for the bottom, then on fore the top of the releaser, there a little differnt then the ones i have because mine have a place for the sap to come in,on the glass, one the washers they come in on the top, which is probably better so it dont have to pull sap though the sap already in the glass, but maybe it dont matter but hope i helped,
    Nate, 17 years old

    300 buckets on a leader 2x4 flat pan in 07'
    1200 taps on gravity for 08'
    1900 taps in 09' 1650 on vac
    1700 taps on vac 50 buckets 10'
    Shooting for 2500 on vac in 11'
    3x10 Grimm Evaporator for 11'
    Stihl Ms390
    Stihl FarmBoss 028
    Stihl Ms170
    Stihl 009

    Website-www.caseyssugarhouse.com AND
    http://maplebs.caseyssugarhouse.com

    Photobucket-http://s374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ssugarshack93/
    Youtube-http://www.youtube.com/user/Caseyssugarshack

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    Casey- Do you have a pic of yours all hooked up with the valves?

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    thats all the valves i have that s/s fitting has a flapper valve in it and on the bottom theres like a inline ball check valve, all i have to do is look the vac to the top and hook the mainline to the s/s fitting and im pretty much ready to go
    Nate, 17 years old

    300 buckets on a leader 2x4 flat pan in 07'
    1200 taps on gravity for 08'
    1900 taps in 09' 1650 on vac
    1700 taps on vac 50 buckets 10'
    Shooting for 2500 on vac in 11'
    3x10 Grimm Evaporator for 11'
    Stihl Ms390
    Stihl FarmBoss 028
    Stihl Ms170
    Stihl 009

    Website-www.caseyssugarhouse.com AND
    http://maplebs.caseyssugarhouse.com

    Photobucket-http://s374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ssugarshack93/
    Youtube-http://www.youtube.com/user/Caseyssugarshack

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    Another thing to remember when using them is the amount of vac that you are using. They were made for the dairy industry and work good for about 15". If you are planning on having higher vac you will need to add weight to the float to get it to reset. To heavy and the float won't shut off the vac and the sap will go out the vac line and to light and it won't reset after it dumps.
    I have had good luck in the past running them with just lines hooked up to water to get it to work properly with higher vac.
    Keith

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    Catching up on posts......one more thing. If you have extreme vacuum leaks, the bender will not work and you will get frustrated really fast. I have walked the 1/4 mile many times back into the woods trying to fix lines, only to have the bender get stuck and hung up and no vacuum transfer. Its best to have a person monitor the bender while the other fixes the BIG leaks to get it to work initially. Then use a cell phone or walkie talkie to communicate.
    Mark

    Where we made syrup long before the trendies made it popular, now its just another commodity.

    John Deere 4000, 830, and 420 crawler
    1400 taps, 600 gph CDL RO, 4x12 wood-fired Leader, forced air and preheater. 400 gallon Sap-O-Matic vacuum gathering tank, PTO powered. 2500 gallon X truck tank, 17 bulk tanks.
    No cage tanks allowed on this farm!

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/SURGE-DELAVAL-BE...d=p3286.c0.m14 here is a smaller setup of the kind i have see how the sap/milk comes into that stainless side fitting, and then below that it dumps, out hte bottom, i never seen a smaller one like this i seen the ones dennis has but not set up like this, check it out
    Nate, 17 years old

    300 buckets on a leader 2x4 flat pan in 07'
    1200 taps on gravity for 08'
    1900 taps in 09' 1650 on vac
    1700 taps on vac 50 buckets 10'
    Shooting for 2500 on vac in 11'
    3x10 Grimm Evaporator for 11'
    Stihl Ms390
    Stihl FarmBoss 028
    Stihl Ms170
    Stihl 009

    Website-www.caseyssugarhouse.com AND
    http://maplebs.caseyssugarhouse.com

    Photobucket-http://s374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ssugarshack93/
    Youtube-http://www.youtube.com/user/Caseyssugarshack

  10. #30
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    I was asked to post new pics of my small Bender Milk releaser setup so here they are.

    The 1st pic is the one that dumps into the milk tank and the second pic shows my homemade dumpvalve that I am using on that one.
    The 2nd pic is of the Bender that I have on a 50 gal tote on the lower part of my property. It aslo has the same style of dump valve.

    The changes that I made since I originally installed tham was to add the 4" PVC pipe res/manifold next to the Bender. I was have trouble with sap being sucked back up the line when the Bender would dump. Now there will be a place for the sap to hold over till the Bender is done dumping.
    1st Generation Hobby Maple Producer, you got to start somewhere.
    222 Taps, all on Vacuum! No more buckets.
    Lapierre 2'x5' raised flue w/Hood and Preheater
    Surge SP11, Lapierre Hobby Releaser
    Modified 5" Filter Press made by Daryl with a Gear Pump
    Homemade 2 membrane RO
    Kabota RTV Sap Hauler

    Hardy's Maple Syrup on Facebook

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