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    Default Float box set-up and floats

    Has anyone used this kind of float box, valves and floats?
    Do they work well/maintain good constant levels if trying to maintain 3/4 - 1"?
    Can warm/hot sap go thru valve into these without problems?
    Thanks for the input
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    Last edited by Openwater; 11-21-2021 at 06:14 AM.
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    I think float will be to heavy to maintain 3/4-1"
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    I agree, I think you need more surface area. I think it would be ok in a storage or head tank but not in a feeder box, especially with the feed hole right in front of it.
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    Any suggestions regarding what type of float I should replace the SS ball with that has more surface area without putting out $100 for the commercial Leader rectangle floats?
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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    make one. but put a vent in it. your stainless one will explode if it sees temps above 220 without a vent
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    Stainless Steel whiskey flask
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombaisley View Post
    Stainless Steel whiskey flask
    Just drill a hole in the side of flask to vent? Or are they strong enough to deal with the higher temps?
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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    whiskey flask maybe. depends on head pressure
    2017 140 taps 30x8 12x16 shack 28.5 gal
    2018 158 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 44 gal
    2019 223 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 36 gal
    2020 226 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 63 gal
    2021 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 37 gal
    2022 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 55 gal
    2023 235 taps 30x8 12x16 waterloo ro

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    what size is the box? might have one that fits some I made, some are older with lead solder. wound let one go for 50.00 total. if it works out.
    2017 140 taps 30x8 12x16 shack 28.5 gal
    2018 158 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 44 gal
    2019 223 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 36 gal
    2020 226 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 63 gal
    2021 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 37 gal
    2022 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 55 gal
    2023 235 taps 30x8 12x16 waterloo ro

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    Float box size is 15"L x 8"W x 5.5"H
    Head pressure on float valve will probably be minimal. I usually keep topping off a 20 gallon stock pot on a propane burner just a bit higher than pan for my "pre-heater" and am planning on piping the hot sap from ball valve in stock pot into the float box valve.
    Let me know if you have a functional float; it'd be much 'preciated.
    My syrup is only for personal consumption, so the lead solder is ok; the diet coke will probably kill me before the lead does.
    Last edited by Openwater; 11-22-2021 at 06:52 PM.
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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