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  1. #181
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    parker still getting sap today. but finished my last boil yesterday.made 60 gallons of good tasting low grade B. going to pull the membranes out as soon as rinse cycle is done. and wash tubing. leaving pumps on till tubing is washed do under vac. good luck today but i found late yesterday i was starting to loose money instead of make it with the cost of electric, oil,. filter papers and d.e
    10,000 taps and adding on vac.4 liquid ring pumps, lapierre 5x14 thunderbolt, 1800 R/O

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    Perry- I dont sell eggs,,I do sell syrup at the salisbury store,,but,,I dont advertise at all,,gonna try that next year,,,,,Jeff, congrats on another great year,,my girls want to visit your place,,I told them about the mountiansides of rockmaple and they want to see it,,
    Done in Salisbury,,nothing running in Hill or on Hoit road,,,rte.11 had a littel of the blue-green sap in the tank yesterday,,BROKE MY SITCK OFF for 2009,,,,,,made 641 gallons,,very happy with that,,previous best was 447,,went to Bascomes with the last of it (ROPEY) befor the price went any lower,,,,on heck of a fun year. thinking about improvements for next year allready...time to get ready for 2010,,,,,AND FILL THAT WOODSHED!!!
    Salisbury Sugarworks,,Parker Rowe, and friends
    Salisbury, N.H.
    1988 taps in 09
    over 2500 on vac in 2010
    no buckets in 2010
    2815 taps in 2011
    shooting for 3000 in 2012
    4000 taps? In 2014
    5x16 wood fired "Mighty Marvin"
    50 cords in the shed
    Old, old R.O.
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    Totals:
    -1518 vacuum taps ran 29670 gallons of sap or 19.3 gallons per tap and made 570 gallons of syrup ,, .37gallons per tap

    -270 gravity taps ran 2340 gallons of sap or 9 gallons per tap,,making 46.7 gallons of syrup,, .17gallons per tap

    -200 buckets ran 1235 gallons of sap or 6.17 gallons of sap per tap making 23.7 gallons of syrup,,, .118 gallons per tap


    This averages the sugar content which was ALOT higher in the buckets,,and the buckets were only up a short period of time,,,pluse buckets are the only way to tap those particular trees...
    -Note sure why I thought I had 2250 taps when I had 1988 taps???
    640 gallons on 1988 taps= .32 gallons per tap avg.
    GUESSING I burned around 50 cords-improvements on MARVIN made a BIG diffrance!!!
    CONCLUSION: NO MORE GRAVITY LINES,,,I am building a CHEEP vacuum system for bushes under 400 taps,,Anyone interested?
    Last edited by Parker; 04-19-2009 at 09:32 AM. Reason: forgot the 50 cord thing
    Salisbury Sugarworks,,Parker Rowe, and friends
    Salisbury, N.H.
    1988 taps in 09
    over 2500 on vac in 2010
    no buckets in 2010
    2815 taps in 2011
    shooting for 3000 in 2012
    4000 taps? In 2014
    5x16 wood fired "Mighty Marvin"
    50 cords in the shed
    Old, old R.O.
    Charter member Andover/Salisbury Mapleholics
    http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4...s009bx4.th.jpg

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    Parker
    sounds like you did pretty well this year, better than most around here.
    Is anybody interested in what??? cheap vacuum systems?
    I'm thinking of doing vacuum on a 200 tap bush I have. I know the payback would take longer...
    Just an ole GILLBILLY
    24 years since that first boil




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    Define cheap. My system consists of an SP 22 vacuum pump, Bernard single releaser and 550 gallon poly tank. The most expensive part was the releaser which I paid $600 for when it was new. I have this on 461 taps now. The 550 gallon tank was around $360 and the vacuum pump was $300. For less than $1300 I have a reliable vacuum system that will maintain 23" of vacuum and get 19.2 gallons of sap per tap on mostly red maples.
    Russ

    "Red Roof Maples" Where the term "boiling soda" was first introduced to the maple world!

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    Hard maple-I am going to mess around with building a vacuum pump much like the "Sappuller" (no releaser) and try to make them for around $900 (with gas moter)????? BUT that is a real guess,,I am guessing it would double the flow of a gravity tubing system....will have to pull 19" for me to be happy
    RUSS- I regularly see Giles Bernard singles for $900+,,and SP-22 (just the head) for $500,,,plus a $200 gas moter +pulleys- belts-stand -moisture trap ect,,,I bet if you had to replace what you had it would be around $1800 rady to plug into your mainline (without the sap tank),,,
    BUT I might be all talk and it will never get done,,,,,we will see......I have a lot of firewood orders to fill.......
    Salisbury Sugarworks,,Parker Rowe, and friends
    Salisbury, N.H.
    1988 taps in 09
    over 2500 on vac in 2010
    no buckets in 2010
    2815 taps in 2011
    shooting for 3000 in 2012
    4000 taps? In 2014
    5x16 wood fired "Mighty Marvin"
    50 cords in the shed
    Old, old R.O.
    Charter member Andover/Salisbury Mapleholics
    http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4...s009bx4.th.jpg

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    I am interested in a cheap vacuum system for my 650 tap bush. I was ready to bite the bullet 3 or 4 tears ago but I believe it was going to cost $ 5,000-$6,000 .
    2012: Probably 750 gravity taps and 50 buckets.

    600 gal stainless milk tank.
    2 - 100 gallon stock tanks
    one 30 gal barrel
    50 buckets

    3' x 10' Waterloo Raised Flue wood fired evaporator w/ open pans.

    12" x 20" Filter Canner

    Sawmill next to sugarhouse solves my sugarwood problem

    Gather with GMC 3500 2wd Pickup w/ 425 gallon Plastic Tank.

    Been tapping here in Lyman NH since 1989 but I've been sugaring since 8 years old in 1968.

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    650 tap bush for $5000-$6000 Im intrested what color do you want it to be. that includes dilivery and set up.

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    OK Parker, what's going on up there? It's been way too long since we've heard anything. You need to understand that if we don't here about the superhuman exploits of guys like you and Mountainvan, then small time late starters like me start to feel pretty good about ourselves. Then I just slack a little more and its just a viscous cycle. So how 'bout an update?
    Still learning after all these years.

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    I really want to swing over and see Mighty Marvin in action.
    Do I need a cord of wood to get through the door?
    30x40 Sugarhouse
    975 taps here at home. Still have 3-400 to add in.
    3x10 Cabin by the Creek evap with "steamaway"
    CDL 600 RO
    ebayed Sogevac S65

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