Log load firewood

[Parker]

Lets mellow out a littel with the calling loggers insane or greedy-try walking a mile in their shoes,,you know what it costs to keep a logging opperation going? When pulp prices are high it drives up firewood prices-supply and demand-why am I going to sell you a load for $650 (and sink thru your leach field with my truck-listen to you whine about too much brich in the load-have your check bounce) when I can drive over the scales and get $1200 at the pulp yard,,,,,and get my fuel-repair bill paid down a littel? Logging is a hard way to make an easy living......That being said it apperars the hardwood pulp "gold rush" is over,,prices are dropping fast for pickerloads,,,

[gator330]

Parker

Whats the land owners cut on that load of fire wood or pulp that your getting $1,200 for?

I didn't see any place in here were any one said one bad thing about a Logger. Just that the price is high due to the type of demand in there area. For my area $650 for big load is about the going price. When I hear $1,200 I think thats crazy. We have a 50 mile law, I can't get it to a pulp yard. So it's the local mills and local firewood price for us. Now keep in mind I only play a little with logging. Trees on my own land that I can get out with the equipment I have. So when I get full value for a few logs rather then a cut with a logger. I might feel that the cut wasn't a fair deal. That and they get to own all that big, fun Equipment, that never breaks down and always starts on cold days. And if your a honest man defend your honesty againts all the fly by night crack head, drunk ones that will cut you blind and never pay for it. And to this day there are still a lot of them around.

By all means if you can get that kind of money for it and it's a fair and honest price, then make that dollar. I just don't see were you think any one is calling you "insane or greedy".

[TapME]

They yards here have reduced the loads of pulp that they are taking in to 1 a week (They call it taking a ticket). The yards are full. I have one on the way to the job that must have 2000 tuck loads of tree length in it. It sure is a lot of wood.

[Parker]

Gator-read back thru the thread and you will see it,,,when the pulp was high I was paying $10 a ton, now I am paying $10 a cord,(2.5tons),if you dont pay your bills around here you dont buy too many woodlots,,and I have plenty of work ahead of me,,,,dont mean to be too negative,,just gets me going a littel,,,how many people are selling there syrup for $9 a quart? You have to get what you can while you can,,,

[markcasper]

Since everyone is talking pulp. We have 240 cords of hardwood pulp and 30 cords of popple that got no bid during the bid opening last month. I had a mill buyer come last week and he surveyed the woods. He returned and complained out there not being enough bigger trees marked. He brought out the idea of remarking the woods himself. He complained of there being too much small stuff marked.
Since this is in the state MFL program. What will happen if the sale recieves no bids next spring or next fall? what will the dnr do if things don't turn around and it doesn't ever recieve a bid?? Will the DNR say tuff !^*@, we will just take it then.?

[forester1]

I think I lucked out getting my woods cut last August. The local mill just cut their prices again. Aspen down $17 a cord to the logger. They are shutting down one paper machine and laying off some people. The local sawmills can't sell hardwood lumber and are cutting back. Mark, I wouldn't let timber buyers mark your woods, at least not without you looking at it before they cut. They want your big sap trees.

[Dave Y]

markcasper,
What is a MFL program?

[OGDENS SUGAR BUSH]

Definately second what forrestor 1 said DONT LET THE BUYER PICK AND CHOOSE WITHOUT YOU CHECKING IT OUT

RICH

[markcasper]

managed forest law. Our forester marked it the way it was supossed to be marked, the way I wanted and to satisfy the requirements of the MFL. The buyer said "no charge" for the remark, but that they would guarantee the highest bid to themseleves.

I told him he'd have to talk to our forester as he is the one hired for the job.

[Homestead Maple]

When pulp prices around here this spring were at $45 a ton, a load into the mill was bringing upwards of $1,350. Now that the price is down to around $28 a ton and going lower so I'm told, a load will be worth considerably less. We had people around here complaining that at $1,350 that was terrible to have to pay for a load of fire wood but as some of the operators here said, "hey, I can easily take it to the mill and within a week I have my check, no questions asked, no hassles." Understandable reasoning I would say.