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    Quote Originally Posted by CTguy923 View Post
    Dr Tim, by frequent is that every day or every other day ??
    i have mostly aluminum buckets that i use but i do have quite a few glavanized ones that i havent been using
    At least daily.

    Lead will accumulate whenever sap (or partially boiled sap) is in contact with materials containing lead. The rate is dependent upon the lead levels in the material, the surface area, and the acidity of the sap. As sap sits in any container, the acidity will go up due to microbial activity. If there is lead in the container, this increases the solubility of the lead in the sap and increases the rate of lead going into solution.

    The "fixes" are to:
    1. Reduce or eliminate lead in your operation, especially in sap collection and storage containers and in the evaporator (especially the backpan).
    2. Reduce the amount of time sap (or sweet in the pan) is in contact with lead-containing equipment.
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    Could grommets be installed in the plastic pails? I have pails from 10 liter up to 22 liter. I just drilled a 5/16 hole in the side. I have blue plastic ecospiles, old school wire hooks, and old aluminum hooks. They all tear if you don't get to them in a timely manner. Some are 30 year old holes, still fine. I just move over and drill another hole. My aluminum buckets have grommets
    2239 total taps. 443 gravity line, 1806 buckets

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    3x9 Darveau raised flue pan, 3x3 D&G reversible finishing pan.
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    94 Argo 8x8 Magnum
    06 Argo 8x8 Avenger with a 100 US gal. poly tank in the back.
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    1200 Imperial gallons in holding tanks
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    As was mentioned before, plastic pails are really not designed to hang on the tree. They are to heavy when filled with sap and will either break or pull the spile out of the tree. You can use a 5/16 spile and 5/16 piece of tubing and set the pail on the ground with something heavy on the lid to keep it in place. I have done this many times and it works. I just always carry 2 pails with me because I don't want to carry full pails of sap to dump.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    I stick with my sharkfin spiles and aluminum pails, which are either 1.5 or 2 gallons. Wouldn't go plastic even if you paid me.

    And if anyone wants to sell sharkfins - still in good condition, not too beat up - please let me know!

    ETA: I see many hobbyist setups around here with a lidded 5g foodsafe container sitting on the ground and spiles running tubing down into them.
    Last edited by Galena; 04-03-2024 at 12:03 PM.
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    On the mapletrader facebook page there are some for sale, it looks like in the ad there is a bucket or two full of them.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiamond View Post
    On the mapletrader facebook page there are some for sale, it looks like in the ad there is a bucket or two full of them.

    Great, thank you! Always forget about the FB page!
    Been tapping since 2008.
    2018 - 17 taps/7 trees...819l sap, approx 28l syrup
    2019 - 18 taps/8 trees...585l sap, 28l syrup...21:1 ratio
    2020 - 18 taps/8 trees...890.04l sap...gave away about 170l, 30l snafu'd....23l total for me from approx 690l
    2021 - 18 taps/8 trees...395l sap, 12 l syrup
    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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