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    Default 2x4 raised flue operating questions

    So we've got new pans this year, Smoky Lake raised flue on our 2x4 Corsair arch. For those of you who run this rig, or something similar, a couple of questions come to mind.

    One-when shutting down, how much sap do you have in your head tank to flood the pans with? With our old divided pan we would stop firing at a certain point and then flood the pan, bringing everything to a boil to sterilize it. Thinking of doing the same this year but obviously the boil rate of the raised flue is much higher than our divided pan.

    Two-at what point do you open the ball valve on the transfer pipe from the transfer float box to the front pan when you start your boil? I would presume this ball valve gets shut at some point in the shut down process to help preserve the gradient. If so, then when is the valve opened upon starting the boil?

    I recognize everyone's practice is a little different but some general ideas would be helpful. Oh, and yes, the pans have sight glasses.
    Daniel & Eleanor Bliese
    Heritage Woods, LLC
    SW Michigan

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    Daniel, I shut down when I am tired, being retired i can boil all day if needed. When I have about 25 gallons in the head tank. I do not flood the pans. I just leave the float valves open as normal and let the fire die and don't turn the blower off until there are zero coals. Once the temp get down to 180 on the auto draw off temp gauge for the front pan, I shut the blower off and know I can leave the pans for the night. I double check the fire box. I do not close anything off between the front and rear pan. I have never had any problem with preserving the gradient. It stays in the front pan for me.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    On my 18x60 raised flue I flood rear pan when I have 2 1/2 to 3 gallons left in the head tank. But prior to that, at about 7 or 8 gallons left I switch over to burning pine only to reduce coals. I mix in pine the whole boil so I can control coal load. After I flood the flu pan, I toss in a big handful of VERY finely split pine. This will create an intense fire to get everything to a boil, but will turn to ash in minutes.

    Obviously, your rig has a higher GPH so your numbers will be different. Just gonna have to play with it until you slip into a routine.
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
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    Great answers already. I raise my flue pan level to 3 inches from my operating height of 1 1/2”. I leave the flue to syrup pan open. Also, after the fire is nearly our and fanoff, I open the door a1/2 inch and leave it open. That prevents the door insulation from sticking to the door the next morning.
    2010 buckets 12 taps
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