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Thread: NH 2008 - Tap now or wait ???????

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    Went to Bascom's yesterday and spent $450. Swapping out one orchard to the the stubby taps from health spouts. Sap out of there has been decreasing every year since I tapped it in 2000. I am anxious to see if new taps will make a difference.

    I also picked up another 300' of mainline. On a new installation last year we had to drive through a field to pick up the sap. By the end of the season it felt like we were competing in mud bog every time we collected. We'll run the mainline out to the road this year.

    Bascom's had just started tapping last Monday. Weather around here looks like we are on schedule for end of the month.
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    Tap now or wait? Well if you were in Tamworth I would wait... it is supposed to get way to cold, it has been gray, and the winds have been high.

    I don't expect to be ready to tap before the 23rd and 24th here and still it depends on the weather.

    For me that is a good thing since I have no rig at all yet.

    I wasn't sure i would have time this year and haven't in the last several years, so I must re-assemble and make everything I need, from pan to stove from taps to buckets, everything..

    You can tap all the trees you like, but with out weather there isn't a lot of sence in it.

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    Bruce is a business man, and a good one at that. He and Liz do a good job. We are glad they are there, buying our sometimes marginal syrup. I do get a chuckle when Bruce talks about syrup shortages and is encouraging everyone to buy more tubing...spouts....ect!!
    3x8 Algier Evaporator. 600 gph Lapierre RO. 10" Filter press. We buy sap.

  4. #14
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    Default Gary - a word from your neighbor Paul

    Gary - friend and neighbor! As you know from cruising past
    my lines, I have had more sap than I expected thus far, and
    if you prefer the earlier lighter syrup, then there is a case to
    be made for tapping as soon as you get flow.

    Mind you, it depends on the exposure of your trees to the
    sun this time of year - but even yesterday, where the weather
    in Bedford topped out at 35 degrees, I managed to get about
    20 gallons of sap out of the southerly line, with an open
    field adcent to the trees. I was shocked! It was trickling
    out at a rate of 3 gallons per hour - not bad for a lousy
    55 taps on a cold day. On the other hand,
    i've had zilch in the shady trees just up the road.
    I have now about 110 gallons of sap in storage, out of 55 trees
    in which the sap has really only flowed on 3 days.

    You see from the earlier comment about Bascom's tapping
    last week, that they are clearly expecting to get
    more than 6 weeks out of their taps. This is due to their
    switching over from the older style 'leave in' tap to the
    stubby/disposable insert, which they assert produces for
    up to 10 weeks, instead of 5-6. I had taken all my taps off and
    boiled/bleached them (and rinsed!) so I have good reason to
    believe they were essentially bacteria-free at the start; that's
    why I was willing to put 'em in early.

    See you on Nashua Road, eh?

    Paul L.

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    Paul, Gary is nearer Bedford eh? No wonder you guys can tap.. I am sure there have been a few days in Tamworth that sap would have run, but not many days in a row. We are getting buried still and with more white stuff coming.

    I get down to manchester driving delivery for parts rather often, and there is far less snow down that way. I will be forced into snow shoes, just to set taps.

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    I like Bruce and met him in person a few years ago at Verona. Nothing against Bruce and I appreciate what he has done for the industry and has been a good source of supplies not matter how big or small the order for many years for myself and many others.

    I do think he gets a little carried away with predictions at times like 9 to 10 weeks out of a spout. Anything is possible in a given perfect year, but not likely. They have always treated me second to none and customer service has been tremendous. Hopefully they have got the shipping cost back under control.
    Brandon

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    I'm not sure Bascoms are tapping with the plan to get 9-10 weeks out of a taphole but with the number of taps they have they have to start early. Most all the really large operations do as well. Friends of ours have started they only have 6-7000 taps but there is only 2 of them and they milk cows as well. Can take them 3 weeks to tap. Yes they might get some early sap but they also might lose some at the end of the season from the same taps.

    Mark
    1700 Taps /1600 on Vac. 3x10 King evaporator
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    Default The 10-week claim from Bascom's

    Hi Guys -

    It was actually Bruce's brother, whose name escapes me, that told me
    that last year, the fresh 'throw away' inserts he had used were
    the only ones producing after 9 weeks. He actually gave me quite a
    talk about the bacterial contamination which contributes to the drying up
    of the hole, and if I understood him correctly, they are in fact switching
    over entirely to the stubby/insert system.

    I ought to have qualified my remarks with the caveat that I am only
    passing on what I was told by 'da man' himself, rather than professing any
    acquired expertise. It does seem plausible that a fresh clean tap would
    produce longer, but we'll see - if I am running dry by March 21st, I will
    be asking you all for your best crow recipes...

    Paul L.

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    Default Paul

    That would have been David Bascom he has like 4000 taps on his own land that he taps and sells the sap to the business his brother owns.. I have seen those taps produce longer, It is kind of the same thing with new tubing producing longer, well its not the new tubing its the new taps on the tubing..

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    Default tapping in NH

    Folks,
    I tapped the weekend of feb 23 and the sap ran pretty good. I have about 400-450 taps and had over 800 gallons of sap boiled by 2:30am Thursday 2/28. I was trying to get everything boiled before the freeze. needless to say I've made 17 gallons so far. I figured I would tap before the snow thawed and then I would not have to tap on snow shoes. That's not much fun. Glad I did it when I did as we have another 14" since I tapped. My legs are short so I'd been in big trouble. I live in New Boston with trees facing west. Not the most desirable but it's all I have. No vaccuum allowed on these borrowed trees. Hope the best for you all.
    Mt Crumpit

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