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    For those of you who sell a small amount bulk, where do you/who do you sell it to? i usually have between 2 to 4, 40gal barrels that another producer has been taking for me and selling it with his. he boils off of 10-15,000 taps. while this has been working for me, it seems as though it's probably a p.i.t.a for him... although he says it isn't. i'd rather sell my product direct to the buyer myself so i'm not inconveniencing him. i've called a hand full of bulk buyers and they aren't really interested in buying a couple of barrels from a small producer. there has to be a few places that would buy good syrup in smaller quantities... right?
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    I sell to Bascom in NH. He will usually buy from smaller guys. Usually if I sell bulk it is 2-4 barrels. You deliver to him in NH and walk out with a check. Usually I do some shopping too.
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    I have not had a problem taking 3 or 4 40s to Bascom’s. They do require to call ahead to set up a dock time.
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    I haven't tried Bascoms. i've been trying outfits closer to me. It's a bit of a drive for me, but would certainly be worth it. Thanks for the info guys. it's very much appreciated!
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    Give Bascoms a try and you can do some shopping for next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NhShaun View Post
    Give Bascoms a try and you can do some shopping for next season.
    Ya, the boys at Bascom ain't dumb. Pretty good chance you will do some shopping while there
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    I drove to Bascoms a few times to sell bulk back in my early days before I had enough customers. I drove there from much farther away than you would be, I'm half way between Syracuse and Utica, NY.
    Since my sales got as good as they are I have only sold bulk if I had extra dark or commercial, for the lighter grdes, especially Amber and dark I sell all of my production, and because I do, I'll be getting back into producing again, hopefully in 2024.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Dave, That is really good to hear. Are you going to buy a smaller rig since you sold your large one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    I drove to Bascoms a few times to sell bulk back in my early days before I had enough customers. I drove there from much farther away than you would be, I'm half way between Syracuse and Utica, NY.
    Since my sales got as good as they are I have only sold bulk if I had extra dark or commercial, for the lighter grdes, especially Amber and dark I sell all of my production, and because I do, I'll be getting back into producing again, hopefully in 2024.
    That is great to hear Dave. Sounds like your health must be improving. That’s great news.
    305 taps on 2 Shurflo's, 31 taps on 3/16" and 229 taps on gravity. 565 in all
    Mountain Maple S3 controller for 145 of the vacuum taps
    2x6 Darveau Mystique Oil Fired Evaporator w/ Smoky Lake Simplicity Auto Draw
    Wesfab 7” filter press

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    You could try holding on to the syrup until later in the year when packers might be more eager to pay more than the current rate. The spring rate seems to have nothing to do with supply and demand. Assuming that supply will dwindle by the end of the year could get you another 0.20 to 0.40 per pound- or not.

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