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Thread: Scorched Pan and the Syrup- Now what ?

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    Default Scorched Pan and the Syrup- Now what ?

    Can you blend great syrup with scorched syrup tp help reduce the flavour of the scorch
    OR
    Do we have to pitch it ?
    2010 40 buckets- 4 gals finished
    2011 80 buckets- 14 gals finished
    2012 105 buckets- 8 gals finished
    2013 maxed at 130 buckets- 24 gals finished
    2014 new max at 240 buckets- 18 gals finished
    2015 newest max 240 buckets-+48 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22.5 gals finished
    2016 150 taps on 3/16 gravity- 23 gals finished
    2020 250 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22 gals finished
    2021 385 taps on 3/16 gravity 25 gals finished
    2022 385 taps on 3/16 gravity- 26 gals finished

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    I should likely only be sold as commercial. Sorry. If you blend it with "really great syrup" you will then have more for commercial.
    Just clean the pans and if you are still getting sap, start again.
    It is very risky to blend very good syrup with sub par syrup, There is one remote possibility, convert it to sugar, The heat is so hi sometimes that can take poor syrup to a decent product.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Thanks for the advice
    The woods are full of sap- so I like the idea of starting again.

    Left a lump in my throat once the pans scorched up but luckily we saved the pan.
    2010 40 buckets- 4 gals finished
    2011 80 buckets- 14 gals finished
    2012 105 buckets- 8 gals finished
    2013 maxed at 130 buckets- 24 gals finished
    2014 new max at 240 buckets- 18 gals finished
    2015 newest max 240 buckets-+48 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22.5 gals finished
    2016 150 taps on 3/16 gravity- 23 gals finished
    2020 250 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22 gals finished
    2021 385 taps on 3/16 gravity 25 gals finished
    2022 385 taps on 3/16 gravity- 26 gals finished

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    Yes, like Dave said, clean up the pan and move on. Ruined syrup is ruined syrup. A ruined pan is another story.
    It's easy to get more sap. Getting a new pan, not so much! Good save.

    Steve
    2014 Upgrades!: 24x40 sugarhouse & 30"x10' Lapierre welded pans, wood fired w/ forced draft, homemade hood & preheater
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    Welcome to the club!

    My Dad always said there are two kinds of sugarmakers, those who have scorched the pan and liars

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    Brian

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    YAHOOO--- Nice call Dad !! LMAO
    2010 40 buckets- 4 gals finished
    2011 80 buckets- 14 gals finished
    2012 105 buckets- 8 gals finished
    2013 maxed at 130 buckets- 24 gals finished
    2014 new max at 240 buckets- 18 gals finished
    2015 newest max 240 buckets-+48 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22.5 gals finished
    2016 150 taps on 3/16 gravity- 23 gals finished
    2020 250 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22 gals finished
    2021 385 taps on 3/16 gravity 25 gals finished
    2022 385 taps on 3/16 gravity- 26 gals finished

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    I did it once. Saved just the near syrup and finished it and put it in a gallon jug in my fridge. Wrote "scorched coffee syrup" on it so the kids wouldn't get confused. It worked great for that. Lasted a couple of years.

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    I never have burned a pan and have been doing it for 35 years. My father told me about burning pans and to never leave them alone. I have a bucket of water next to the evaporator and that has saved me more times than I can count. I call it my OH **** BUCKET, but it don't take much water to cut the sugar and slow things down.
    Blaisdell's Maple Farm
    started on a 2x2 pan in 2000 and now
    custom built oil fired 4x12 arch by me
    Thor pans Desinged by Thad Blaisdell
    4600 taps on a drop flue 8-4 split

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday Rock Maple View Post
    Welcome to the club!

    My Dad always said there are two kinds of sugarmakers, those who have scorched the pan and liars

    Your Dad was correct with that, plus, if you haven’t burned a pan, then you aren’t pushing your evaporator hard enough.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
    New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
    New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
    2022 added a used RB25 RO Bucket
    250 mostly Sugar Maples, 15% Soft Maples. Currently,(110on 3/16" and 125 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 15 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
    1947 Farmall H and Wagon with gathering tank
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    I made 5, 40 gallon drums in 3 hrs last night on a 4x12, 8 foot drop flue, 4 foot front pan and one float. With 20% concentrate at an inch deep running so when you turn off the evaporator the flues are bare or barely covered. I run a carlin 701 with A 5 gallon low fire nozzle and 7 high fire nozzle with the pump psi set at 140 and run a stack temp of 580 F to 625F depending on the barmetric pressure with no barmetric damper so that = 15 gallons of oil per hour. And yes I built the evaporator from scratch and it is custom. I do have custom Thor Pans on it Because Leader didn't want to build them the pans were desinged by my cousin Thad Blaisdell.
    Blaisdell's Maple Farm
    started on a 2x2 pan in 2000 and now
    custom built oil fired 4x12 arch by me
    Thor pans Desinged by Thad Blaisdell
    4600 taps on a drop flue 8-4 split

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