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    Default Maple-pocalypse? Syrup looks like the latest victim of climate change

    There was an article in the Financial Times yesterday about the Maple-pocalypse and the impact of climate change on the industry and hobby. I would post the link, but I think you have a better chance of reading the article, finding it on Google than from my link, as they will want you to subscribe to read the the link.

    They talk about an earlier start to seasons, eventually less sugars in the sap and less yields per tap.

    When you look at one year, you are looking at weather, when you look at many years of change, you are talking about climate change.

    This year, as I imagine almost every year, there will be areas with low yields and areas with high yields.

    I am a believer in climate change and its impacts will be real. I likely will not see too many profound changes in my sugaring time, but I think the difference 25 years from now will be profound.
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    The world economic forum, leader of the fight for climate change says that in order to save the planet, the Future of food, is NOTHING from nature. I would post a link but you need to sign up to see it.

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    As much as we try to dispel these notions when reporters call us, they frequently already know what they want to write (not all of them...some are happy to be educated on the subject). When we won't give them a gloom and doom story, they move on to someone else who will. It's difficult, because the story really is quite complex and has a lot of uncertainties.

    That said, in the LONG run, climate change will not be kind to our friends in the far southern ranges of the maple production areas.
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    Default Gimme a break

    They were saying 20 years ago the maple business would be dried up by now and we are having our best year ever in the Finger Lakes region of NY. Doom and gloom sells in media. They can't even get tomorrows weather right and we are supposed to believe the 20 year forecast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    As much as we try to dispel these notions when reporters call us, they frequently already know what they want to write (not all of them...some are happy to be educated on the subject). When we won't give them a gloom and doom story, they move on to someone else who will. It's difficult, because the story really is quite complex and has a lot of uncertainties.

    That said, in the LONG run, climate change will not be kind to our friends in the far southern ranges of the maple production areas.
    So true! Unfortunately boring news that doesn't excite people don't make good articles! It's all about the narrative -sad.

    But yes in 500 years I'm sure the weather will be significantly different (not just a warm week here or there) but who knows things can change now they are employing devices to capture the pollution out of the air- thank bill gates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigermaple View Post
    They were saying 20 years ago the maple business would be dried up by now and we are having our best year ever in the Finger Lakes region of NY. Doom and gloom sells in media. They can't even get tomorrows weather right and we are supposed to believe the 20 year forecast?
    💯 Uts all speculation. Ever go to a mechanic and have him fix the wrong thing or do a bad job? Every person is different some know their stuff while others think they do- big difference
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    Well, I am not all doom and gloom...but it's pretty hard to refute the science and the evidence that supports a warming planet. Won't affect me in my lifetime. And if it does, I'll just plant olive trees and make olive oil instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigschuss View Post
    Well, I am not all doom and gloom...but it's pretty hard to refute the science and the evidence that supports a warming planet. Won't affect me in my lifetime. And if it does, I'll just plant olive trees and make olive oil instead.
    Are you going to use sap as your defoamer, then?

    I know it wouldn't happen at all, but couldn't resist the joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigschuss View Post
    ...but it's pretty hard to refute the science and the evidence that supports a warming planet.

    This. And it's affecting people's lives now.

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    A worst threat from "climate change" are the proposed solutions.

    FWIW, It's SDG 2 where they want to INCREASE Food production while REDUCING the land used. No new sugarbushes someday?
    And SDG 15 is where they want to take the people OFF the land altogether.

    Their agenda is no secret, Its all here: https://sdgs.un.org/goals
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