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    Default Bender releaser

    Got my vac setup delaval pump with a bender it's been working fine now all of a sudden I have an issue with my bender releaser. For some reason the float just seems to bounce and it doesn't want to hold vacuum. I have taken off the setup I have teed into bottom nipple of the glass which is a tee with a check valve on each side mainline and dump line. Vaccuum will about suck my hand through it with the t disconnected. My best guess is I have a bad check valve? But not sure anyone have any ideas on troubleshooting this?

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    Look up my post on a bender releaser from 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjim View Post
    Got my vac setup delaval pump with a bender it's been working fine now all of a sudden I have an issue with my bender releaser. For some reason the float just seems to bounce and it doesn't want to hold vacuum. I have taken off the setup I have teed into bottom nipple of the glass which is a tee with a check valve on each side mainline and dump line. Vaccuum will about suck my hand through it with the t disconnected. My best guess is I have a bad check valve? But not sure anyone have any ideas on troubleshooting this?
    There needs to be some added weight on top of the existing weight (washer) when running higher than 15". Additionally, it sounds to me like you have some major leaks back in the woods which is causing it to act in the manner you describe. If your pulling in air from leaks the jar can't hold enough vacuum causing it to bobble, at least thats what I found when I used to use them. You need to have a person at the releaser to reset it/dump it manually while you go fix the leaks. They also don't like to work and will freeze up with high moisture in the air, even well above freezing b/c vacuum freezes up at a higher temp. A candle underneath or some kind of heat source blowing on it helps with this problem. nKeep in mind that you probably will top out at 19-20" of vacuum tops using these because of their continual hissing of vaccum away.

    Also, I hope you have a trap between the pump and releaser? check and make sure your trap, vacuum tank on the pump, and line between all are clear of liquid, otherwise this can cause the same problem for any releaser, even the factory ones. Hope this helps.
    Last edited by markcasper; 02-16-2023 at 02:43 AM.
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    Thanks Mark I will have to check. Although it has been working great I had fixed about every big leak I had except for a couple very tiny ones at a couple saddles as soon as I tapped i walk my mainline justabouteveryday when pump is on to try and catch any major issues. . Even when I first tapped and turned the pump on it would hold some vac and I could tell it was working. Now I went and pulled the loop at my 1st saddle which is about 25ft from the releaser and I get nothing no change the way the releaser acts it just kind of stutters . I'll have to tinker with it more and see what happens
    Quote Originally Posted by markcasper View Post
    There needs to be some added weight on top of the existing weight (washer) when running higher than 15". Additionally, it sounds to me like you have some major leaks back in the woods which is causing it to act in the manner you describe. If your pulling in air from leaks the jar can't hold enough vacuum causing it to bobble, at least thats what I found when I used to use them. You need to have a person at the releaser to reset it/dump it manually while you go fix the leaks. They also don't like to work and will freeze up with high moisture in the air, even well above freezing b/c vacuum freezes up at a higher temp. A candle underneath or some kind of heat source blowing on it helps with this problem. nKeep in mind that you probably will top out at 19-20" of vacuum tops using these because of their continual hissing of vaccum away.

    Also, I hope you have a trap between the pump and releaser? check and make sure your trap, vacuum tank on the pump, and line between all are clear of liquid, otherwise this can cause the same problem for any releaser, even the factory ones. Hope this helps.

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