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    Default Willow Creek Sugarhouse 2023

    Well Its finally time to start the 2023 thread!!!

    Wanted to finish a few things in the woods yesterday but my son's Track meet had a delayed start so didn't get into the woods at all yesterday. Our washing machine drain pump went (still under warranty) but they didn;t have the right pump in stock. So had to run to the laundry mat saturday AM. And ended up running to the hardware store this morning, So much for an early start in the woods today. a few more branches down with the wind from the CYCLOGENESIS what ever the hell that is we had Friday night. It was nasty I will say that. -15 about 2:30 am here and the wind was whipping!!! I got up to add more wood to the fire just burning it a little hotter to keep the house toasty.

    So finally finished up the new section of mainline and got about 110 taps in this after noon. couple of fixes here and there but all in all that section went pretty smooth. I got back to the sugarhouse about 5:50 turned off all the other valves on the other sections on the way back and started up the vacuum and got about 5" of vacuum. So something aint right. so that will have to wait until tomorrow after noon. I am hoping I can get my woods all tapped in by wednesday. Hit it hard as soon as get home from work. after I check things to see what I missed. guessing I missed a taps is all. hopefully its not a bad valve somewhere out in the woods.

    Hope everyone else is getting things done.

    Good luck to everyone this season,
    Brad
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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    Good Luck Brad. You're at it early. I'm still shooting for Presi Weekend.
    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
    2010 - 377 on vac.
    2011 - 590 on vac.
    2012 - 620 on high vac., 170 buckets, 110 on gravity tubing
    2013 - 830 mine + 800-1000 others
    2014 - 870 mine + 800-1000 others
    2017 - 920 mine + 500-700 others
    2018 - 902 mine + 500-700 others
    2019 - 902 mine + 700 others
    2020 - 902 mine + ???? others
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    Hey Josh.... you are missing some great runs!!! perfect sap weather!!!

    So wanted to make sure I was boiling by this weekend. missed a day tapping set me behind. (Washing machine fix it dude was really late like 3 hours late ruined my afternoon in the woods) so wednesday after work went to the hardware store got a powerful head lamp and tapped until about 11PM. dragging *** at work on thursday!!! but never did that before but it was great had to finish off about 30 taps and a few fixes with a couple more trees down from last weekend cold shot but all done thursday.

    So this year I tapped a little different. So by now I am sure you all have heard of the Precision tapper, that Glen goodrich designed... Well not gonna spend the $400 for the adapter but I did drill my holes straight this year, buckets still need to be angled or sap runs backwards out of the tap( made that oops last year) but anyway I haven't even really gone to check for leaks and I am at 25.5" at the releaser. with my woods completely tapped. MUCH better seal it seems doing the straight hole as opposed to the angled hole. So we'll see if this is the way. I will trust a guy with as much experience as Glen has and with as big a of operations he has too. I think he is up to 160K taps in the north east kingdom there he calls Eden!!! along with his place in Cabot.

    Anyway. after getting all tapped in and letting some nasty nasty sap run on the ground I started collecting Thursday night and it ran straight through until saturday evening when everything froze up by about 7PM. getting just shy of 1GPT each day. which is always impressive with my reds!!! and sap was crystal clear even at freeze up.

    Spent the day yesterday cleaning the sugarhouse and rinsing stuff running RO on 800 gallons. Got it up to 16 and the filter didn't fail so that was good. It was quite green when I changed it out though. Had an almost flawless first boil just had to get the blower dialed in still not perfect yet but getting there had some strong and slow boils turned it up too high once blew ashes/sparks in my face once oops. but pretty good towards the end made a few gallons of high side Dark/robust good for slightly green sap.

    I wanted to get taps in across the street but not there yet. Have to go up to Dartmouth today since my son Qualified for the indoor Track state meet in the 4x400 they are seeded 2nd in D1 and 3rd overall. He missed the 300M by less than 1 second He is very excited about today and if they finish in the top 6 they can compete in New Englands in Boston in early march. He is quite excited about spring track too. I am sure sure he will get it in for the 300m next year. Then I wanna watch the superbowl tonight. So those 75 taps will go in monday after work.

    Got a new "sap siphon" for across the street too. no more pumping the tank. and has a vacuum release so it doesn't freeze. Got a deal on 2 used ones from bascom's.
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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    Still not at it. Man this sucks. Going to start my thread tomorrow. More detail there. Trying to balance work, home, family time.

    Congrats to your son. Good for him. I got into running about 5 years ago, so I'm following indoor track now, then will go to outdoor track and road racing.
    Josh

    2009 - 370 on vac. & 16 buckets
    2010 - 377 on vac.
    2011 - 590 on vac.
    2012 - 620 on high vac., 170 buckets, 110 on gravity tubing
    2013 - 830 mine + 800-1000 others
    2014 - 870 mine + 800-1000 others
    2017 - 920 mine + 500-700 others
    2018 - 902 mine + 500-700 others
    2019 - 902 mine + 700 others
    2020 - 902 mine + ???? others
    Atlas Copco Pump
    2.5'x8' 802maple Special with Dallaire pans
    H2O Innovation 600gph RO
    Spring Harvest Website

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    Nice jump on the season Brad! Thought I was good to go until I blew an RO fuse Sunday morning... now everything is backed up.
    Bruce Treat
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    Thanks Josh, I got into running back in my mid 30's was out of shape bad was running 12 to 15 miles a week but had to stop after a few years, plantar fasciitis, hip problems, lower back problems, sucks just hit 50 in october. I didn't go to the gym during covid but got back into it un until maple anyway just not enough time in the day. Was just getting back into lifting somewhat heavy heavy again too. but will restart when I have off days. but going strong except this headcold that's kicking my ***. Covid was easier than this head cold!!! it happens every year I get run down and only a few hours of sleep and I get sick. Its always tough balancing work and kids and maple its a little easier now that Griffin is driving and has a vehicle and my daughter is in college. but still there is work that I have to get up at 4am for. ah the life of a lunch lady(kitchen manager/chef)!!! and our director is throwing me some good stuff at me but its alot of work. we have alto sham combi ovens at the highschool and one is smoker too did 180lbs of Beef Brisket so kids got house smoked beef brisket. smoked them for 5 hours and wrapped in foil finished for another 3 hours and they were DELISH.... so good!!! ever have house smoked brisket in school? yeah me either.... its fun though.

    Ah Bruce that sucks. sorry hopefully you are back up and running!!!

    SO been super busy. already up to 24 gallons since my first boil. you'd think I would write down how to use my filter press but nooooo I never do. oh and don't miss a filter paper either that doesn't work at all. but stuff like that happens when you are running on a few hours of sleep and sick to boot!!!

    all in all having fun. When the temp dropped like a stone friday night with the wind it cracked a PVC elbow on my new sap ladder had it happen before on an elbow on my mechanical releaser from the manifold to main chamber I guess its called, when the temp drops that fast combined with the wind it cracks stuff. when it slowly freezes I never have issues.

    All the Tubing taps are in but only about a 1/4 of it is leak checked. and running now about 26.5" still alot of lines to walk but will get some done today after I run out and get a treaded fitting for the sap ladder and put that back together. and have to redo the fitting on the side of the RO they are dripping really bad when pressure gets high. no good. Have a clean bucket to catch concentrate don't want to loose the sweet!!!

    I did redo all my plumbing in the RO room a project that I wanted to do after my first year with the RO how ever many years ago that was. SOOOOOO much easier to use now. and all new valves and just so much more user friendly.

    Well happy sapping everyone. Getting some breakfast and off to it!!!
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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    I used to lift weights a lot when I was younger, but then I just got too busy with life, so I gave that up. I was getting out of shape and looking for something to do out of the house and didn't cost much. Running fit the bill perfectly. I got into it in my mid-30's and haven't stopped since. Averaging 60 mi weeks for the year and enjoying it.

    I never, ever had brisket for school lunch. Lunches are way better now than they used to be.

    I hear you about there never being enough time in the day. I'm in the same boat.

    Good luck this season.

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    frozen up for a bit like everyone but been visiting colleges We went to Uconn on saturday for my son he's a jumior. what a campus. he loved it. We are heading up to dartmouth today...yes hes friggin book smart, way smarter than me as far as book smart and the ability to remember stupid crap facts and figures with a photographic memory like his mother. but both of them lack common sense and that engineering figure it out and build it gene I have that.

    But with this freeze up I can work on confection stuff for maple weekend and I already have half a crop in the first 2 weeks. was able to boil off everything except for 10 gallons of sap when I cleaned out the releaser. thursday night just stuck it in buckets and let it freeze up. looks like just when we will get back in business there is another freeze and snow storm on friday, saturday. 5-8 or 6-10 by Saturday. but that can change to nothing by the way the weather forecasts are this year.


    its a nice rest though and actually getting to the gym heading out now!!!
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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    Well its been a while since an update!!! not much sleep between boiling, making all the maple stuff, trying to spent more time in the woods which has been paying off, finally got my 30 something buckets tapped last week a week later than I would have liked need to make sure the tubing was as tight as I could get it first. couple of really late nights boiling more sap then I expected to have. I am sleepy but happy. I wish the sugar was a little higher been averaging between 1.25 and 1.5 closer to 1.25 most of the time so a little more processing time before boiling. goal this year was to spend more time in the woods and its paying off. I still have a few micro leaks that I can't find no matter what I do. found a cracked spout 1st time for that. had a tree that snapped off in the fall and turns out it was hollow anyway. I figured I'd tap it anyway why not right... had a few branches come down and pulled the lines off 2 spouts. but have been maintaining 27-27.5" for more than 2 weeks now. sap flows have slowed for some reason not sure if its atmospheric pressure or snow around the base of the trees keeping them colder and partially frozen. but the season aint over and I have collected more sap than I ever have. I think changing out 2 of the 3/4 inch lines had something to do with that as well. need to get more of that done. still have quite a bit of 3/4" inch line to change out but its a start. I wish it was as syrup as sap but with mostly 1.25 sap it aint but still way above, should be a record year for syrup for me as well. Also lightest syrup I have made. got up to 48 TC but can't have only made D/S but its really nice syrup, niter seems to be a bit lighter than past years as well which is nice for filtering I wonder if that has anything to do with color... I never make A/R so its only a bonus if it gets that high.

    Got candy made yesterday, first batch was a a degree or 2 over what I normally do and it was setting up too fast. lost of waste and white spots. took it 2 degrees cooler and second batch was great. funny what a couple of degrees does. started the soak on those last night. I always crystal coat my candy now. have for a a few years just better product and longer shelf life I tried freezing it but that just made it even harder. its nice and creamy now. but have everything but nuts done just need to do labels. making nuts in a bit.

    Sales have been crazy already as well. having trouble keeping the farm stand stocked.

    My Cream I think I was a degree or 2 too low when I was boiling it down in the past because it was separating too quickly I have always used the recommendations from the CDL that was what the directions said to do anyway. so this time I upped it by 2 degrees and it seems to be holding up better. just have to work a little faster bottling and takes a little more work to clean the machine since it sets up quicker.

    All in all having fun... the time change hurts a bit and snow on the way its gonna be like shoveling concrete so that should be cost me a few hours of snow removal!!! not really looking forward to that.

    Hope everyone is doing good and getting some sleep and most of all having fun!!!
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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    Well I found out the safety solenoid that I got with my Vacuum pump works perfectly. I cleaned out my releaser and then I do I turn the switch from auto to off... so I don't trip the float switch when I am cleaning it. Well of course tired and beat I forgot to switch it back and came back after collecting buckets and it was full but the sensors tripped and no sap made it back to the vacuum pump!!! excellent.

    SO sap ran pretty bad last week I think we just didn't get cold enough nights to keep things going here. but had 600 gallons for saturday but wanted to boil all that off because I was able to keep the room below 40 but I was holding it for longer than I like so I enough to boil on saturday and ended up with 200 gallons gallons of fresh sap for saturday and ran it through the RO to remove exactly half of the water so I ended up with a 100 gallons for the day on sunday. was a slow start and I usually light the evap when people get there so waited until 10:30 to light things up (we open at 10am) good crowds both days. cold and windy on sunday took a bit to warm up but a hot shower and some chinese take out and I was falling asleep on the couch. above average sales by about $300 and $500 over last year. So no rain and snow this year!!!

    didn't get as much sap as I thought monday but its really coming in good now hasn't been running this good in over a week. but sadly its the last freeze in the forecast here so I don't know how long it will last buds are still tight but turning brighter red (on the reds of course) sap was very cloudy yesterday too finally clearing up today. sugar getting lower too a hair under 1.25 so hopefully the buckets will be a little higher they usually are.

    alrighty off to it.
    Last edited by red maples; 03-21-2023 at 02:24 PM.
    may your sap be at 3%
    Brad

    www.willowcreeksugarhouse.com
    585 or so on Vacuum, about 35 on buckets/sap sacs
    Atlas Copco GVS 25A Rotary Vane vacuum pump
    MES horizontal electric releaser
    2x6 ss phaneuf Drop flue, Leader woodsaver blower, homemade hood
    300gph H2O RO
    husquvarna 562 XP
    Its Here!!! 2024 season is here get busy!!!

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