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    Default Using New bottles and jars

    I am thinking of buying some plastic and glass jars this year to bottle my syrup. Are they fine to use right out of the box? No need to sanitize them?

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    I have never used plastic always used glass, and always washed and rinsed before use.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    I asked this very question of our Director of food safety in the Dept. of Ag one year. His reply was, "use them directly from the box, your more likely to introduce mold or bacteria by washing". He did say if your going to wash use the sanitiing cycle on a dishwasher, but hand washing is not recommended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brien View Post
    I am thinking of buying some plastic and glass jars this year to bottle my syrup. Are they fine to use right out of the box? No need to sanitize them?
    Sanitizing is generally not necessary (unless indicated elsewise by the manufacturer), however you should ALWAYS invert the bottles (or eyeball them if glass) before filling. Storage of empty containers in a pest-free environment is essential.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
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    Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu

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    FYI - I think that the last few cases of glass bottles I bought came already inverted in the box.
    I don't sanitize my bottles before filling. They go right into the oven or steamer pot to pre-heat before filling.
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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    I've always used glass bottles and they've always been packed upside down in the cartons.

    I've never wash them. Not sure what would I use for soap and how well could I rinse - dry.
    Pretty sure bottles are made with extreme heat, so should be sterile coming out of the bottle plant.

    Laying the bottle on it's side for a bit after filling and sealing...if syrup is 185-190° they will be sterilized.

    Dr Tim said..."always invert the bottle before filling" What he forgot to say was "If a roach falls out....move on to another bottle!" <grin>

    Good luck this year
    John Allin

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    Thanks for the replys. Sounds like I will be fine. Although my friend just gave me a bunch of used mason jars. So I might go that route again.

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